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The Annex: Done

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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby defactobrigade » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:13 pm

Bland wrote:
defactobrigade wrote:when people continually argue about things they obviously have no interest/knowledge of, well that gets my goat.


That's understandable, but you are incorrect if you think that just because people prefer a less crowded atmosphere that they have no interest in live music. And yes, some of that DOES have to do with getting older. Are you really surprised to learn that people and their tastes change as they get older? Assuming you're not really 12, my guess is you don't enjoy all the same activities you did when you were.

I NEVER said you didn't ENJOY live music.

As a living being, I enjoy being in the company of other LIVING beings truly enjoying themselves.

I hope I don't get old and become the crotchity old guy who doesn't want to see a show where kids are having the time of their lives. Cuz that's the BEST type of show in my opinion. When you see kids truly happy at a show I think you will understand, but my gut tells me you would avoid shows like that with all yr life. Which is a shame, cuz most of the best shows I've seen have been the performers feeding off of the energy in a live room. When you see a powerful performer feeding off that energy it's intoxicating. And at the same time when you see that same performer at a dead show the shows typically are not as intense on the musicians end, and that's why I prefer a packed show where the musician can feed off of the energy.

I should clarify "Interest" - I was making a point that you would have no interest in actually knowing the capacities/intricacies of the inner workings of venues in a town like Madison (aka WHY VENUES OPEN), since you don't play shows. Which is totally fine, but that's why you should have taken my word on this junk, since I think I've proven to be knowledgeable on the subject, eh?
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby defactobrigade » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:14 pm

Stebben84 wrote:
defactobrigade wrote:Pretty sure at one point you wrote:
"I disagree. All of the performances and video I've made have been for the audience. It's an added benefit that I like what I do. If you do it for yourself then why do you perform live?"


I'm not arguing but just clarifying what I meant. BECAUSE of the audience and FOR the audience are actually two different things to me. Maybe it's just semantics in my own head that I can't explain. Blerf.


yeah I think I get what you meant. When I first read it I equated them to being equal but I DO think yr right about the "because" vs "for"!
So kudos!
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby Stebben84 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:28 pm

defactobrigade wrote:I hope I don't get old and become the crotchity old guy who doesn't want to see a show where kids are having the time of their lives.


I don't know how old you are, and you may not become crotchity, but when you get older you do realize you can't get kicked in the head with a combat boot like you did when you were 19(yes that happened to me and many other things). I won't stop and I love seeing other people getting crazy, but it gets harder to keep up with it :D
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby defactobrigade » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:34 pm

Stebben84 wrote:
defactobrigade wrote:I hope I don't get old and become the crotchity old guy who doesn't want to see a show where kids are having the time of their lives.


I don't know how old you are, and you may not become crotchity, but when you get older you do realize you can't get kicked in the head with a combat boot like you did when you were 19(yes that happened to me and many other things). I won't stop and I love seeing other people getting crazy, but it gets harder to keep up with it :D

Yeah I probably will mellow out. BUT I'm hoping I'll be marco pogo when I'm old.
He still dungivafuck
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby jjoyce » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:23 pm

Kickass shows I've seen at the Annex:

Dios (malos)
The Changes
Hold Steady
Frank Black & the Catholics
New Pornographers (the infamous oversold show)
Neko Case
Corn Sisters (Yes, it seemed like Neko was here every other week at one point with different outfits)
Pernice Bros.
Mates of State

I know there are a few more, but I can't remember. Also held a great Band to Band Combat finals there with Jimmy's Comet.

I love the Frequency and what Darwin has done for the scene, but he's almost in a different business from the Annex, which needs (needed) to attract big audiences to make it work.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby depinmad » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:23 pm

shit i forgot pernice brothers in my list. that was a really great show.

annex has gone through show cancellations and turmoil before... here's hoping it opens up again soon.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby meowzamusic » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:37 pm

I saw some good shows there, the first Guided by Voices show was one of the best of the 10 odd shows of theirs I've caught. Queens of the Stone Age were really good. But it's been years since I set foot in there.

My old band got a solid show there for our CD release some 10 years ago. It was a decent place for a long time but most crowds I saw there were scensters. It was obvious that college kids didn't care about seeing live music as much as my generation did.

I did get to open for Evan Dando when he came through which was a huge thrill but there were some classic problems. The promoter (who shall remain nameless since he's dead now) called me to see if I wanted to do the show-- to which I said yes, of course. He then asked me to flyer, said he was too busy to do so. Sent me a horrible shitty flyer--that's single, not "flyers" but just one which I was supposed to copy I guess (?) so I put a couple up. I looked in the Isthmus and Onion to see if there was an ad for the show. Nothing. Now, Evan Dando is not a household name, but the Lemonheads had hits and sold records. So I figured, if folks knew it was happening, it would sell. But there was zero promotion. Played the show and met Evan, who was really friendly and actually watched some of my set, he played and his voice was even better than it is on record. It was a great night. But there were less than 100 people there. At the end of the night, the Late Nameless Promoter tried to talk me out of the $50 he had offered me. "We didn't draw as well as we should have, so would you take $25?" I just laughed at that, and thought, is this why the Annex has such a hard time? Is it as simple as not promoting things the way that they should be?

Anyway, RIP Annex
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby drinkinblackcoffee » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:54 pm

Geat Evan Dando story....

Besides two Watt shows, the next best show I ever saw at theAnnex was some kind of supergroup with Cheetah Chrome in it...anyone have any idea who I am talking about?
Fourth place goes to The New Recruits, specifically the show where Shinky took a huge digger over the monitor and everyone just kind of stood and looked at him. Classic.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby Prof. Wagstaff » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:40 pm

drinkinblackcoffee wrote:Fourth place goes to The New Recruits, specifically the show where Shinky took a huge digger over the monitor and everyone just kind of stood and looked at him. Classic.

And he never stopped singing! Not on the way down... not flat on his back...

Was that the same night the band was doing hot sauce?
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby drinkinblackcoffee » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:49 pm

Dave's Insanity Sauce if I remember correctly. They were definitely on fire that night.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby hellogoodbye » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:46 am

Saw a really good King's X show at the Annex. Maybe 75-100 people? They never were a huge success but tons of musicians love em. I've been trying to see that band live for over 10 years and they didn't disappoint that night. Dug Pinnick had a wicked cold but still sang his ass off. Those guy's are as pro as it gets.....but as Ian Faith would say, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no...no, no, not at all. I, I, I just think that the.. uh.. their appeal is becoming more selective."

A band I was in 10 years or so ago had some great shows there. Our audience drank the place dry so they invited us back many times. We had our final show there. I recall that wicked Intellisound PA, it was really set up for handling heavier acts but made our not so crunchy band sound killer and clean.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby diaper daniels » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:02 am

I saw an awesome Grandaddy show there. The Frames too.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby swoon_queen » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:20 am

I saw a fantastically frenetic Delta Spirit/Tokyo Police Club/Cold War Kids show at the Annex which remains my most memorable Annex experience- it had to have been sold out. I think the puzzling thing to me about the venue has always been the discrepancy between its lineups and its location. Seems to me that putting hipster indie bands (a la the lineup above and a few others I saw there, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Ra Ra Riot etc.) in a smallish venue walkable from an area densely packed with students is a no brainer. But the Annex for whatever reason (maybe acoustics?) in the past couple of years veered away from those lineups and focused their booking towards an older rock/metal/punk crowd. I've missed a few shows there that I've wanted to see, David Bazan most recently, simply because logistics of transportation, dinner plans didn't work out-- East Side/Downtown venues don't seem to have those same issues for my friends. I wonder if they could have capitalized on their location by grabbing a few of the shows from the High Noon- those that students would walk a few blocks to catch but wouldn't be willing to venture up to High Noon for. Plus if it hasn't been mentioned in this thread already it should be said that in my humble opinion the Annex, while only slightly larger than HNS (450 cap v. 400), just doesn't compare to HNS-High Noon's just a better venue all around, in terms of staff, sound quality,location and layout. Regardless, it's too bad they couldn't work out any issues- a loss of a venue always sucks.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby radio_redhead » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:16 pm

drinkinblackcoffee wrote:Geat Evan Dando story....

Besides two Watt shows, the next best show I ever saw at theAnnex was some kind of supergroup with Cheetah Chrome in it...anyone have any idea who I am talking about?


That would be Rocket From The Tombs, also featuring David Thomas (Pere Ubu) and Richard Lloyd. Fantastic show. Haven't seen many to top that one since.
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Re: The Annex: Done

Postby Igor » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:11 pm

hellogoodbye wrote:Saw a really good King's X show at the Annex. Maybe 75-100 people? They never were a huge success but tons of musicians love em. I've been trying to see that band live for over 10 years and they didn't disappoint that night. Dug Pinnick had a wicked cold but still sang his ass off. Those guy's are as pro as it gets...


Was at that show as well - great band. Have probably seen them 10 or so times, including the Annex and in Waunakee. Missed them in Middleton with Accept a few years ago because I am old and don't pick up Isthmus/Onion/Maximum Ink that much anymore.

As they go on, I find that I like their side projects more than the last couple releases by the band. You may be interested in The Mob or Supershine featuring Doug; Ty's solo albums, Platypus, and Jelly Jam; or Jerry's solo album. If you smoke a lot of pot, you might like Doug's solo albums too. (In fairness, his first one is much tighter than the others)

As to the Annex - the sound was always good, but the floor plan always seemed kind of weird somehow. Like the stage was too big for the room, or the room was not deep enough or something. Maybe I am not remembering correctly - it has been a while.
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