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Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby pjbogart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:40 pm

No one doubts that there is such a thing as voter fraud. What you need to justify is A) the expense of implementation by showing B) the danger of non-implementation. Since the dangers posed by non-implementation are small (not many cases of voter fraud) and the costs are high, implementation is not justified.

However, as most people are pointing out, if your intention isn't to stop fraudulent voting but rather to curtail legitimate voting by a bloc that typically votes Democratic, then the cost might be justified. I would point out that you probably don't actually believe in Democracy, though.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby ilikebeans » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:42 pm

David Blaska wrote:All your wild discussion of voter suppression is overblown.

I quoted two studies earlier that prove that statement untrue.

You still have earlier additional statements to back up with data.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby Marvell » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:55 pm

David Blaska wrote:
fisticuffs wrote:
The people have been duped.


Hey don't be so modest. You helped.


Then I've done my job. Now, where is that Koch brothers check?


For christ's sake, Dave - do you mean to tell us that all this time you've been a Koch-sucking whore on spec?!!

You're even more pathetic than I thought you were - and believe me, that's saying a lot.

I mean, even the crack addict who hangs around the dumpsters behind the Esquire Club gets one picture of Abe Lincoln per customer...
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby David Blaska » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:00 pm

pjbogart wrote:No one doubts that there is such a thing as voter fraud. ... However, as most people are pointing out, if your intention isn't to stop fraudulent voting but rather to curtail legitimate voting by a bloc that typically votes Democratic, then the cost might be justified. I would point out that you probably don't actually believe in Democracy, though.


Citations?
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:10 pm

David Blaska wrote:Cases of voter fraud are documented.

I guess you missed this:
A Brennan Center for Justice study found that 44 one-millionths of one percent of votes are cast by people who commit voter fraud.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby bdog » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:32 pm

Henry, got a link to the study (the one in your post does not work)?

Just wondering how they came up with that figure. How would they know? Unless they're only counting the unsuccessful fraud.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby pjbogart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:46 pm

David Blaska wrote:
pjbogart wrote:No one doubts that there is such a thing as voter fraud. ... However, as most people are pointing out, if your intention isn't to stop fraudulent voting but rather to curtail legitimate voting by a bloc that typically votes Democratic, then the cost might be justified. I would point out that you probably don't actually believe in Democracy, though.


Citations?


The only thing there that could be cited would be "a bloc that typically votes Democratic," and I'm pretty sure you know that college students and inner-city residents typically vote Republican.

In fact, merely asking for a citation makes me think that "you probably don't actually believe in Democracy" is a pretty accurate statement.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby pjbogart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:42 pm

bdog wrote:Henry, got a link to the study (the one in your post does not work)?

Just wondering how they came up with that figure. How would they know? Unless they're only counting the unsuccessful fraud.


Henry's an old man and he heard a six-pack of Leinenkugel's calling his name. You could always just Google it. I got 322 hits using the entire sentence as my search.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby bdog » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:14 pm

That's nice but the couple I looked at link to a Colbert video.

Not unlike Blaska linking to his own blog.

Does this Brennan study actually exist anywhere?
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby Bert Ernie » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:58 pm

David Blaska wrote: The people of Wisconsin wanted a reasonable voter I.D. law and they got one.


The people of Wisconsin got what they wanted? And what they were sold? Really??
http://www.uwsc.wisc.edu/BP32PressRelea ... _FINAL.pdf -
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby pjbogart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:42 pm

bdog wrote:That's nice but the couple I looked at link to a Colbert video.

Not unlike Blaska linking to his own blog.

Does this Brennan study actually exist anywhere?


Oh man, and that Colbert video was HI-Larious! Thank God liberals can now rely on comedy instead of facts for their information. Until Stewert and Colbert, I had to get all my comedy from Hannity and O'Reilly. Talk about a downer...
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby pjbogart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:43 pm

P.S. You didn't look very hard.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby TheBookPolice » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:37 pm

David Blaska wrote:Wisconsin's computers talk to each other all the time. How do you think the Revenue department knows to go after income when DOT records purchase of a new Lexus and DNR reports a snowmobile?

Maybe you missed the part where I specifically referred to the Department of Corrections.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:09 am

bdog wrote:Henry, got a link to the study (the one in your post does not work)?

Try it again.
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Re: Unanswered questions posed to David Blaska

Postby bdog » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:10 am

pjbogart wrote:P.S. You didn't look very hard.

Do me a favor and post a link to the the study. Henry's link is just that same statistic quoted...and a Colbert video.

Thanks.
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