wack wack wrote:So violence = homicide? There is no violence that does not result in murder?
All homicide is certainly violence, but not all violence is homicide, obviously. Statistics on generic "violent" crime will be difficult to compare between countries because laws differ on what is considered a violent crime. Murder is something that is pretty universally considered a violent crime, statistics are available, and it's also among the most important types of violent crime to try to prevent (rape, child abuse, assault would be others).
wack wack wrote:FAIL. Try again. And try to include some information about depression rates in said countries too, so it at least looks like you're trying to argue genuinely. Hey, it may even help your position!
I don't see why my points should be considered a FAIL. Murder statistics (and correlated gun crime numbers) are not a complete picture of violent crime between countries, but my limited data certainly goes against Mr. Dave's totally unsupported claim.
I googled around about depression statistics and didn't find a definitive international dataset. It seems that depression is common in most developed economies. Thus, I don't really have an argument with Mr. Dave's (totally unsupported) assertion that Germany and Japan's depression rates are similar to those of the U.S.