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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby Meade » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:27 am

Daily Page Forum Police Department
Chief Rabble Scratch Fisticuffs, Chief of Police

Spring 2013
Forum Resident Information Letter

The safety issues associated with Meade's commenting are, historically, the result of over-consumption of critical thinking and a general attitude of irreverence and disrespect for authority. Illegal/nuisance commenting enforcement is the most effective way to stop this over-consumption of critical thinking and to discourage bad attitudes in general.

The no tolerance stance of the Daily Page Forum Police Department extends to the entire internet area during the first weekend of May and every weekend thereafter. So, if you're thinking you'll just have a friend in another part of the internet host an illegal/nuisance commenting session; The Daily Page Forum Police Department again encourages you to reconsider. We will be out in force and most of the repercussions outlined in this letter will apply everywhere.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby bdog » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:35 am

I think putting Meade's name up in lights in thread topic titles is the best way to discourage his despicable behavior.

Meade.

Drink!
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby jjoyce » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:28 am

Please don't compare our comments section to that found on your typical daily newspaper's website. It's not even close. All you have to do is read the comments accompanying just about any story on madison.com or jsonline.com to realize that.

And do you really need/want somebody else filtering your content for you?
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby Detritus » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:54 am

Mad Howler wrote:"sloppy" "purchase".

Band name!

Or maybe pornstar name--I guess there's a lot of overlap there.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby narcoleptish » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:58 am

While Isthmus may manage a more civil comments section than most, it doesn't change my opinion that the move to involve the public in all things media, mostly results in involving those members of the public who exhibit one or more of the following characteristics:

Bored
Lonely
Angry
Bitter
Disenfranchised
Jaded
Illiterate

And for the life of me I can't understand why people want to know what these people have to say about the situation in North Korea or the pursuit of the god particle.

jjoyce wrote:And do you really need/want somebody else filtering your content for you?


Absolutely!

I subscribe to National Geographic for the content they're known for and that I have come to expect. If some contributing writer were to decide to do a full length feature on his 3 year, 17 country quest to find a holistic cure for genital warts, I would hope that an editor would catch that.

In the end, this is really just my opinion and you and anyone else reading this probably couldn't care less.

Which is my point, you see.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby snoqueen » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:39 am

When was the last time anybody was banned (or account-deactivated) on this board?

I don't think it's happened for years.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:44 am

Did Cornbread just go away on his or her own volition?
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby mrak » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:01 pm

narcoleptish wrote:
jjoyce wrote:And do you really need/want somebody else filtering your content for you?


Absolutely!

I subscribe to National Geographic for the content they're known for and that I have come to expect. If some contributing writer were to decide to do a full length feature on his 3 year, 17 country quest to find a holistic cure for genital warts, I would hope that an editor would catch that.

Exactly. This is why there is such a thing as an "editor".

That an alleged journalist needs to have this explained to him is so unbelievably sad, I just want to look away.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby snoqueen » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:33 pm

I'm starting to think this is a generational/internet thing. To some of us, having an active editor or editorial board is a way of getting the best out to the public and tossing the rest in the trash where it belongs. If you want a range of editorial opinions or policies, you look at a range of media. It's not only a filtering mechanism but a sorting mechanism, in other words. It's a time-honored system that has served well for generations and with any luck is not totally going away. Both the New York Times and Fox use it, after all.

To others, the idea is to put it all out unfiltered and let god sort it out -- god being the readers. Apparently JJ is taking this tack.

There's probably a place for both approaches. Still, I totally appreciate narco's remark that comments sections have become a repository for the nation's dreck. Somewhere, there is a very small undershirted army of old white guys generating hate mail 24/7 that make the rest of us much, much dumber if we read them and, more important, completely warp the way any article is received by the general public. (This is by design, of course.) More and more, conventional media are turning off comments on anything more controversial than the weather and traffic reports. Middle-school-level offensiveness outweighed any real value, and the sheer effort required to monitor the comments was too much of a pain.

I think that's what we've got with the Citizen Dave thing -- somebody thinks it's too much effort so nobody moderates. It's just one guy at this point and he can advertise his general disdain and nastiness as long as he likes -- does that do any real damage to either CD or the publication as a whole? When does non-moderation turn suicidal? What is the optimum balance of effort with quality of content? Do you customarily read comments any more? (I usually don't, though I did for this posting and I do read comments at publications where they are monitored.)

Ms. Question Woman wants to know, I guess, but at least I'm asking open questions for all of us, not implicitly pushing a nonsense theory by using deniability.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby Detritus » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:46 pm

snoqueen wrote:Somewhere, there is a very small undershirted army of old white guys generating hate mail 24/7 that make the rest of us much, much dumber if we read them and, more important, completely warp the way any article is received by the general public.

Alcuin (8th century) said it first:
And do not listen to those who keep saying, 'The voice of the people is the voice of God.' because the tumult of the crowd is always close to madness.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby Huckleby » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:05 pm

snoqueen wrote: Still, I totally appreciate narco's remark that comments sections have become a repository for the nation's dreck. Somewhere, there is a very small undershirted army of old white guys generating hate mail 24/7 that make the rest of us much, much dumber


I am on the other side of this one. I find much to learn in the comments section of the Washington Post, where comments are largely unfiltered. The people there are not dumb, and you get a good idea of the range of opinions that are out there. Comments in blogs that are addressing wonky subjects are the best. If you sense stupidity just skim, skim, skim.

Further, I take issue with suggestion that my age, race, gender and penchant for undershirts is disqualifying.
Hath not a man in his underwear eyes? Hath not the underwearer hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby snoqueen » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:10 pm

Alas. Now I've offended the League of Men in Undershirts.

The Washington Post comments are, truly, a mix of the strange and wonderful. The whole geography/history/demographic of DC is an incredible mix, and WaPo pretty much reflects that. I'm not sure the wingnuts are doing themselves any favor taking up so much space in its Comments sections, but at least the rest of the country can keep an eye on them. Sometimes they break out in little internecine quarrels, even. It can be pretty amusing if you're up for it.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby scratch » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:14 am

bdog wrote:
scratch wrote: blaskaDog (not saying you are Blaska, Dog Boy, just that your content is redolent of Blaska)

I've never understood that. Sure I'm conservative on some things but Blaska is conservative on all things.
I have a better sense of humor and don't write people off when we disagree on a few things, even when we disagree on a lot of things.
Heck look at Henry and I always at each others throats, until we find common ground as Stu-called anti-Semites.


Indeed: I find your comments to be much more entertaining and content rich than those posted under the unadulterated Blaska moniker. Of course if you were to post under your "real" name, it would cut off my kind of taunting you at the knees, at least under the Joyce protocols.
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby Meade » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:22 am

How would you characterize "[your] kind of taunting"? Is it like "shit[ting] all over..."? Or would you say that what you do is at a higher level?
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Re: Why do you let Meade shit all over...

Postby jman111 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:57 am

As someone whose comments on Blaska's Blog were occasionally removed for being "off-topic", I find it odd that Larry's are apparently not similarly scrutinized.
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