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Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:00 pm

Not only did Walker lose jobs when he reneged on a state contract with train manufacturer Talgo, but he might also cost the taxpayers an additional fifty million dollars.

The state of Wisconsin has defaulted on an agreement to buy two sets of passenger rail cars from a Spanish manufacturer that has a factory in Milwaukee, according to a lawsuit the rail car maker filed on Friday.

Talgo, which contracted with the state in 2009 to build the rail cars for $4.6 million, said that under the purchase contract the state is responsible for the cost of pre-sale testing of the rail cars and not Talgo, according to the lawsuit, filed in Dane County Circuit Court.

Because of the dispute the train cars have not been tested and Talgo has not been paid for them, so the state is in default on its purchase agreement, the lawsuit states.

According to a news release from Talgo, the cars were to be used on Amtrak's Hiawatha line between Milwaukee and Chicago.

The company said that if the court rules in Talgo's favor the state will have no further rights under the contract and will lose nearly $50 million that it has already spent on the project.

Talgo CEO Antonio Perez said in a statement that the company invested in Wisconsin and created manufacturing jobs but the state has instead decided to breach its contract with Talgo.

"I don't see how any company in the future would choose to do business with the state of Wisconsin when the state has shown that it cannot be trusted to honor contracts that it has signed," Perez said.

The lawsuit names Gov. Scott Walker and transportation secretary Mark Gottlieb as defendants. Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie declined comment, deferring to the state Department of Transportation.
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Obama, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Meade » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:20 pm

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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby ilikebeans » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:47 pm

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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Meade » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:48 pm

What happened in January 2011? That's right - Republican Governors began their first terms in both Wisconsin and Ohio.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explor ... &ind=false
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby lukpac » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:50 pm

Meade wrote:What happened in January 2011? That's right - Republican Governors began their first terms in both Wisconsin and Ohio.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explor ... &ind=false


What about it?
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Meade » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:00 pm

lukpac wrote:What about it?

What about it is states like Connecticut, New York, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, Kentucky, California... all have Democrats as governors and their unemployment rates have all stayed well above the national average.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby lukpac » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:11 pm

Meade wrote:
lukpac wrote:What about it?

What about it is states like Connecticut, New York, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, Kentucky, California... all have Democrats as governors and their unemployment rates have all stayed well above the national average.


Yet Wisconsin's rate was already under the national average when Doyle was governor.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:22 pm

lukpac wrote:
Meade wrote:
lukpac wrote:What about it?

What about it is states like Connecticut, New York, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, Kentucky, California... all have Democrats as governors and their unemployment rates have all stayed well above the national average.


Yet Wisconsin's rate was already under the national average when Doyle was governor.

He does want to talk about Wisconsin. Instead, he employs his typical diversions from the topic.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Meade » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:29 pm

lukpac wrote:Yet Wisconsin's rate was already under the national average when Doyle was governor.

Except for when it wasn't. Under Walker, Wisconsin's rate of unemployment has always been below the national average and by more than twice the margin as when Doyle was governor.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:48 pm

Walker said his number one priority as governor was to help create a quarter million new private sector jobs. He gave hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars (offset by a similar reduction in state aid to public education) to corporations in order to create those jobs. That didn't happen. Instead, Wisconsin's job growth lagged well behind the national average.

And a certain someone wants to blame Obama for that.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Dipper » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:59 pm

Did you read that press release from Talgo? Broken contracts, vanishing manufacturing jobs, layoffs, etc? Hard to spin that one.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Meade » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:05 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Walker said his number one priority as governor was to help create a quarter million new private sector jobs. He gave hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars (offset by a similar reduction in state aid to public education) to corporations in order to create those jobs. That didn't happen. Instead, Wisconsin's job growth lagged well behind the national average.

And a certain someone wants to blame Obama for that.

If a certain Henry V were choosing to be intellectually honest, he would blame Obama too, and hold Obama equally accountable for Obama's empty economic promises as he wants to hold Walker accountable for his. One difference is that Obama is up for election tomorrow. Walker still has two years to meet his goals.

Unless you want to try impeaching him. (Now that your foolish recall attempt failed).
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby snoqueen » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:15 pm

Did you read that press release from Talgo? Broken contracts, vanishing manufacturing jobs, layoffs, etc? Hard to spin that one.


That's a really ugly story. If you were running a corporation with expensive products to sell the state of WI, wouldn't you pull back and wait until we got a different administration?

I don't think I'd contract to sell the Walker administration anything bigger than a case of toilet paper these days.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby rabble » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:25 pm

snoqueen wrote:I don't think I'd contract to sell the Walker administration anything bigger than a case of toilet paper these days.

And that's at least partly because Walker managed to piss off enough constituents to make the state an unsafe bet. Which means the recalls had the effect of slowing down the administration's plans to sell off the state.
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