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First Dem says he is running for governor

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First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:11 pm

Tim Cullen says he is in. I know the stategy is to hold off because of the big money negative ads that will be run in light of the "Citizens United" ruling. They will probably stressed that he was part of the Senate 14. But Cullen is also well noted for reaching across the great political divide, seeking compromise. That isn't possible now, but maybe it will be if he is elected.

Just a thought.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby ilikebeans » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:58 pm

Is there any reason to announce before it's official that the petition passed?
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:08 pm

ilikebeans wrote:Is there any reason to announce before it's official that the petition passed?

There are pluses and minuses. Annoucing early can affect the recall drive. The candidate can either turn off potential signees or encourage them to sign. Negative issue ads can also start early. But annoucing early also means that the candidate can start raising money. Expect TV ad revenue in Wisconsin to increase for some time to come.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby bdog » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:48 pm

Cullen is one guy who just might get some Republicans to sign recall petitions if they haven't done so already.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:34 pm

Daniel Bice from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

Nonstop campaigning has begun in Walker recall
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby gargantua » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:57 pm

I'd be OK with Tim Cullen. I'd prefer a more left wing candidate, but I respect a man who is willing to work across the aisle. This state and this country could use more of that. And I think it is a winning message. He's a Dale Schultz Democrat.

Damn, if it came to it I'd vote for Dale Schultz in a heartbeat. The one Republican in the Legislature who has both a conscience and a pair. Cullen is his Democrat counterpart. I'm buying in.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby snoqueen » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:27 am

I'd laugh if Dale Schultz jumped ship and offered to run as a Democrat.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Michael Patrick » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:41 am

I'm interested in hearing more about Cullen, but my initial reaction is that he'd have a better shot at beating Walker than a lot of the other names that have been floated.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby narcoleptish » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:38 am

This is a positive sign. A moderate is the only chance we have of going back to a somewhat normal/civil political climate. A far lefty will only bring a mirror image of what we have now. The extremes of both parties only live to infuriate each other and the people towards the center, which I think is most of us, have to live with the results.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby snoqueen » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:04 am

That's a good point. It's easy to work for a candidate who would (try to) give you the government you want (which in my case is something more northern European, and isn't even on the menu). But to work for a candidate who would actually fit the conditions in the state is more of a reach, and does indeed make sense in terms of winning an election.

I think the primary (if we get that far) is going to be extremely interesting.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Huckleby » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:45 pm

Cullen would be fine. Isn't he a little long in the tooth, tho?
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Michael Patrick » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:57 pm

My personal preference would be for a candidate somewhat further to the left. But I totally get that a more moderate Dem like Cullen has a better chance. And a moderate Dem like Cullen would be WAY preferable to Walker finishing out his term...
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Shorty » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:46 pm

309 people like Jon Erpenbach for Governor.

https://www.facebook.com/Erpenbach4Gov?sk=wall
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby Huckleby » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:33 am

Shorty wrote:309 people like Jon Erpenbach for Governor.


I like Erpenbach a lot, but I think a liberal is inappropriate for this task.

There is some backlash out there among moderate voters against the whole idea of a recall, they may dislike Walker, but are unsure his hard ball ways rise to the level of a removable offense. If a liberal politician is running, it looks more like the recall is just about political philosophy, the sore losers don't want to abide by the results of a fair election.

Cullen diffuses the sore loser argument. He is about civility, compromise, and that contrasts sharply with Walker's heavy-handedness.
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Re: First Dem says he is running for governor

Postby kurt_w » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:51 am

Huckleby wrote:Cullen diffuses the sore loser argument.


OK, sorry to go off topic, but everyone has their pet peeves, and that's one of mine.

Do you mean that nominating Cullen spreads the "sore loser argument" around? Or do you mean that nominating Cullen disarms the "sore loser argument"?

defuse != diffuse
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