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WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby snoqueen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:21 pm

It's evident Walker tried to bury the fact he'd signed the abortion bill last week -- even the Rs know it's a liability by now:

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/w ... f7cad.html
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:16 pm

“I'd very much like to anally probe @govwalker each time he needs to make an "informed decision."

— Comedian Sarah Silverman, who took to Twitter on Sunday to criticize Gov. Scott Walker’s signing of a bill that mandates ultrasounds for women seeking abortions.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:34 pm

Not so fast... Judge delays enforcement of Wisconsin abortion law

A federal judge at that, so no appeal to state courts.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby snoqueen » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:57 pm

The law is blocked pending a hearing set for July 17, and the judge promises to rule by July 18. The Milwaukee J-S has a more thorough report here:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolit ... 59401.html

U.S. District Judge William M. Conley makes some thoughtful observations in his opinion:
"There will almost certainly be irreparable harm to those women who will be foreclosed from having an abortion in the next week either because of the undue burden of travel or the late stage of pregnancy, as well as facing increasing health risks caused by delay," the judge wrote.


More precisely:

Without Conley's action, one clinic would have had to cancel 30 abortions or related appointments, with additional cancellations also needed at the other two clinics, attorneys for the plaintiffs said Monday.


Finally we get someone thinking clearly about the consequences of Walker's sneakily signed-on-a-post-holiday-Friday craziness. Nobody should be proud of a political party that passes legislation like this, disregarding input from anybody but their funding sources.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby MPMay » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:29 pm

Excellent ruling by Judge Conley, and further evidence that he was a great choice for the federal bench.

We will see how he comes out once he has full argument, but he is certainly right that the law on its face raises such great likelihood of violations of constitutional rights that it must be put on hold until there can be a full hearing.

I'm no expert on reproductive rights, but what I do know suggests this law is in serious, serious trouble.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:54 am

More from Judge Conely:
The judge said he found that provision troublesome, writing that the evidence "strongly supports a finding that no medical purpose is served." It is up to state officials to prove that it safeguarded women's health, he wrote, which he said "does not bear even superficial scrutiny on the current record."
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:05 am

Admitting privileges provision a successful pro-life tool

“Now the trend is to eliminate abortion clinics through state regulations,” said Elizabeth Nash, states issues manager with the Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit that seeks to advance sexual and reproductive health through research, policy and education. “Instead of making it harder to get an abortion, the goal now is to close clinic doors.”

It's problematic in Wisconsin for two reasons: the large number of Catholic hospitals that don’t condone abortions and would not grant admitting privileges to physicians who perform the procedure; and the varying, often time-intensive policies in place from hospital to hospital that dictate who is granted admitting privileges.

Roughly one-third, about 35, of the hospitals in the state are Catholic hospitals, according to John Huebscher, a lobbyist and spokesman with the Wisconsin Catholic Conference.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby wack wack » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:08 am

What defines a "hospital" in the US? Are there specific service requirements? Could Planned Parenthood clinics simply declare themselves hospitals?
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby DCB » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:19 am

Just how many efforts by the Walker administration have been put on hold by court challenges so far? I can't keep track:
* Act 10 (portions are still blocked, right?)
* Voter ID (still blocked, right?)
* Abortion restrictions

Did I miss any?

Those activist judges are really screwing up the "jobs" agenda.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:25 am

wack wack wrote:What defines a "hospital" in the US? Are there specific service requirements? Could Planned Parenthood clinics simply declare themselves hospitals?

Wisconsin hospital licensing requirements.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby DCB » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:06 am

Henry Vilas wrote:More from Judge Conely:
The judge said he found that provision troublesome, writing that the evidence "strongly supports a finding that no medical purpose is served." It is up to state officials to prove that it safeguarded women's health, he wrote, which he said "does not bear even superficial scrutiny on the current record."



The bill's sponsor, Sen. Lazich, made that clear. Her only concern was forcing women to reconsider their decision.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby nutria » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:18 am

Henry Vilas wrote:
wack wack wrote:What defines a "hospital" in the US? Are there specific service requirements? Could Planned Parenthood clinics simply declare themselves hospitals?

Wisconsin hospital licensing requirements.


ww asks an interesting question (and thanks for the answer, HV), but in a practical sense, does it really matter if Planned Parenthood could pull that off? For a group as cynical as the Republican Party, the concept of admitting privileges to a nearby hospital is a red herring. If PP could become a hospital, the Republicans would just find some other way to curtail their operations.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby snoqueen » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:34 pm

I think the whole idea is a hospital has an emergency room, which provides a level of care above that in a clinic.

The whole thing is bullshit anyway so it's hardly worth discussing. I mean, does your dentist have admitting privileges to a hospital within 30 miles if he performs oral surgery?
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby snoqueen » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:47 pm

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/ ... e4c0d.html

Judge Conley extends restraining order and

... asked that both sides submit to him by Friday a short brief about whether Conley should appoint an independent medical expert to help him decide whether there is a benefit to the health of women seeking abortions to require doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the clinic where abortions are performed.


That ought to be interesting.

Trial is not until Nov. 25.
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Re: WI Right To Life Proposed Abortion Restrictions

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:53 pm

Sounds like the state will have a tough time defending the medical necessity for the restrictions in the (anti) abortion law.

Shortly after Assistant Attorney General Daniel Lennington started his remarks at a Wednesday hearing by saying the state's case was a “slam dunk” — only to be told by District Judge William Conley that the “AG’s office thinks every case is a slam dunk” — Lennington was repeatedly hit with questions he struggled to answer.

"I don't know how you can start out by saying this is a slam dunk," Conley said. "Surely you have to prove this (law) is better for the health of the woman."
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