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Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

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Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Meade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:33 am

Prosecutor: SEIU organizer committed voter fraud in 2011 Wisconsin Supreme Court election

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/14/prose ... z2F2pmZ0pM

I'm sure Stu will want to know about it.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Detritus » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:02 pm

Please correct the subject line. No one is accusing the SEIU of voter fraud--as the article's headline itself says, one SEIU organizer is accused of voting when they were not eligible to vote:
Then-SEIU Senior Organizer-in-Training Clarence S. Haynes, who is no longer affiliated with the union and whose whereabouts are currently unknown, voted in the hotly contested April 2011 election for a Wisconsin Supreme Court seat despite not being a resident of Wisconsin and leaving the state shortly after voting....

This is not "SEIU voter fraud."
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Meade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:05 pm

Yes it is. And it's being investigated. SEIU allegedly paid the guy. Confirmed.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby rrnate » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:21 pm

Confirmed: Meade has a lot of time on his hands.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby jjoyce » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:50 pm

Confirmed: Drinking four black coffees before a two-hour manager meeting can make a guy antsy.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby jjoyce » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:51 pm

Confirmed: Detritus knows better.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Westsidegal » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:32 pm

For the past four years right wing talk radio and right wing blogs (like Ann Althouse's) and right wing politicians have been carrying on about "massive" and "organized" voter fraud. Given that Wisconsin has a Republican Attorney General and many Republican county prosecutors you would think they could come up with more than a few isolated cases. How many millions of votes were cast during this four year time period?

If Republicans really believed there was more than a few isolated cases of voter fraud they would be actually ferreting them out. But instead they can convince simpletons like Larry Meade and Ann Althouse that the State needs to make it harder to vote with no evidence that there is a real problem.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Westsidegal » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:49 pm

What is most troubling is that people like Ann Althouse and Larry Meade cannot look beyond their extreme partisanship and be intellectually honest by acknowledging that in the past decade very few cases have been discovered of voter fraud (and none of organized voter fraud) and that Republicans are not even bothering to investigate. By acknowledging that they would then have to acknowledge that Republicans want to make it harder to vote because they believe if would game the elections in their favor.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Meade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:08 pm

Westsidegirl, are you an SEIU member?
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby snoqueen » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:12 pm

They don't care if they make sense, or can assemble a rational series of facts to support whatever they are trying to say at the moment. They don't care if the Republicans can't find more than one questionable vote, or two. They don't care about sequences of events over time, about cause-and-effect, about much of anything substantial. When they don't have anything real to say, they resort to asking questions like one of those push-poll robocalls.

All they want is attention.

Repeat after me:

Intrade.
Intrade.
Intrade.
Last edited by snoqueen on Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby lukpac » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:14 pm

Meade wrote:SEIU allegedly paid the guy.


Allegedly paid the guy to vote? Or just paid the guy?
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby fennel » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:16 pm

I don't think it's partisanship so much as a strategic path to lucre. If seeking and expressing the truth were recompensed in line with, say, a big hedge fund manager, they'd be all over that.

Except that their single-minded pursuit would ultimately blow up in their faces. Seeking truth by stratagem is risky business.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Stebben84 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:42 pm

Meade wrote:SEIU allegedly paid the guy.


Severance pay. Nothing in that story suggests SEIU is behind it.

Also, he used hotel paperwork to register. Unfortunately that should have been a red flag for the poll worker. That would not be an acceptable form of proof of residence.

Thirdly. HOLY SHIT. A couple cases of voter fraud that were caught out of how many million votes. Break out a new set of voter id law bills...that, um, wouldn't matter cause he shouldn't have been given the chance to vote in the first place.

Bravo, tool, bravo.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby Westsidegal » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:43 pm

Meade wrote:Westsidegirl, are you an SEIU member?

I am not a member of any union.

Meade, do you look in the mirror and think "I have no sense of personal honor."

If you don't, you should.
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Re: Confirmed: SEIU voter fraud being investigated

Postby fennel » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:48 pm

Westsidegal wrote:
Meade wrote:Westsidegirl, are you now, or have you ever been a member of the SEIU?
(Edited for clarity.)
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