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Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

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Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Doright_Dudley » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:08 am

EPA Data Points to Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Information from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency suggests that a wastewater treatment facility owned by the Bad River Band of Lake Superior Chippewa has a history of violating the Clean Water Act. An EPA permit issued to the facility grants permission to the tribe to discharge treated wastewater into the Bad River if the water meets Clean Water Act and permit-specific standards. Compliance data maintained by the EPA appears to indicate that water discharged from the facility has repeatedly failed to meet the required standards.


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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby juanton » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:47 am

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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Doright_Dudley » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:53 am

juanton wrote:Brian Sikma? Ha ha ha ha ha.


Verified with EPA records and FOIA documentation.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby rabble » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:59 am

Some of this tribe's management are alleged to have broken EPA rules.

Therefore we should drop a mine on 'em.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Doright_Dudley » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:28 pm

rabble wrote:Some of this tribe's management are alleged to have broken EPA rules.

Therefore we should drop a mine on 'em.


Why the avoidance on the substance of the report?
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby rabble » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:09 pm

Doright_Dudley wrote:
rabble wrote:Some of this tribe's management are alleged to have broken EPA rules.

Therefore we should drop a mine on 'em.


Why the avoidance on the substance of the report?

Why bother? They must have done something wrong. Let's shove a mine up their ass.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Doright_Dudley » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:45 pm

More avoidance by Rabble.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:50 pm

What response did you expect from your cut and paste? Does your post have anything to do with the proposed Gogobic mine in northern Wisconsin?
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Doright_Dudley » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:20 pm

In part, it does have to do with the mine.

Testimony has been provided to the legislature a number of times by tribal leaders and members regarding concerns over water quality in the area of the mine.

However, no mention of these issues created by the tribe themselves has been discussed.

This is a significant development in the debate.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby jman111 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:13 pm

Doright_Dudley wrote:This is a significant development in the debate.

The significance is debatable.
jjoyce wrote:I think that if there's a less interesting argument to have, it's over the relative hypocrisy demonstrated by either side of any issue.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Galoot » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:14 pm

I'm sorry, I still fail to see any connection between what you posted, and the proposed mine.

Can you connect the dots for those of us in the cheap seats?
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Woofer » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:32 pm

The point he's likely trying to make is that if the tribe is in trouble with poor water quality standards emanating from their own wastewater treatment facility, they've necessarily lost all legal, moral and {fill in the blank} authority to oppose/initiate legal action/complain about pollution that might head downstream their way from a mine in the Penokee Range. That about cover it?
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Doright_Dudley » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:45 pm

When you have one side of a debate seemingly so concerned about "potential" water quality impacts on one hand and then you find out that they have these on-going water quality issues they are responsible for on the other, their convictions and motives become suspect.

Put another way, if you rally and testify against speeding and then it is discovered that you received over 100 speeding tickets in the last 10 years...

Did that connect the dots?
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby Galoot » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:48 pm

Yes, it tells me that you don't know what a "tu quoque" logical fallacy is.

Let me know when you have something of substance to add to the discussion, though.
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Re: Clean Water Act Violations by Bad River Chippewa

Postby snoqueen » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:25 pm

Put another way, two wrongs don't make a right. Least of all in the federal court system.
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