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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby rabble » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:30 pm

Posted Friday, August 30, 2013 --- 4:45 p.m.

Well ain't that interestin. Shut down 4 thousand acres of recreational forest so the protestors can't see what you're do - I mean, can't attack you and say bad tings.

I wonder why they waited till late on a Friday afternoon to introduce it.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Two Republican legislators have introduced a bill that would close down the forest around an iron mine site just south of Lake Superior.

Gogebic Taconite wants to dig a 4 1/2-mile mine in the Penokee Hills. The forest around the site is enrolled in the Department of Natural Resources' managed forest program, which ensures access for hiking, hunting, fishing, skiing and sightseeing. Protesters emerged from the forest earlier this summer and accosted mine workers.

Sens. Glenn Grothman and Tom Tiffany's bill would allow Gogebic Taconite to close up to 4,000 acres around the site to recreational use. Tiffany says the proposal is meant to help protect mine workers from more protesters.

The Senate's mining committee has scheduled a public hearing on the bill for Wednesday.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby bdog » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:59 pm

What the hell is a bad "ting"?

Freudian slip Rabs?
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby rabble » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:14 pm

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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby bdog » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:24 pm

Ohhh poo poo head, that was unabsolutely an unbad ting you said.

Ting ting ting
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby bdog » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:25 pm

You been playing with your ting rabs?

Freudian!
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby snoqueen » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:55 am

I'm wondering if this particular Friday surprise faces a lot of legal obstacles. I am not knowledgeable enough to know what they are, but at the very least the tribes might have some claim on access to the land. And can the public be barred from public land all that easily?

Legal obstacles have tripped up the Walker administration and its high-handed, ill-considered legislation more than once already.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby rabble » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:11 pm

snoqueen wrote:Legal obstacles have tripped up the Walker administration and its high-handed, ill-considered legislation more than once already.

I am unable to attend the hearing:
Wednesday, September 4, 2013
11:00 AM
300 Southeast

It took a while but I found it at the mining committee's website.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby snoqueen » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:11 pm

They sure buried that thing.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby ilikebeans » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:59 pm

rabble wrote:I am unable to attend the hearing

They may not have let you in anyway:

Journalist and Public Blocked from Open Meeting

Detestable.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby Mad Howler » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:22 am

Do these players understand what they are in for?
Did they not see walker win the recall?
Did they not see Tammy bash a very popular and former governor of our state in our last senate election?
They should get a clue.
I do not think people here in this state are nessessarily against mining, ya know the whole badger thing and all.
It seems that WE as a collective will refuse to be dictated to.
If you current players in the mining business want in, I would suggest MUCH less subversive measures.
Players, endevour as you have at your own peril.

But hey, what the hell do I know.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:23 am

"The GOP bill that passed on a party-line vote would let GTAC close off the land in Wisconsin's Managed Forest Law program without paying a tax penalty of nearly a half-million dollars. At a meeting captured by WisconsinEye, Sen. Glenn Grothman (R-West Bend) said the aim was to prevent incidents like one in early June when a group of about 15 people shouted obscenities and threats at test drill workers. 'We want people working in the state of Wisconsin,' said Grothman. 'We don't want to have them scared to death.'"

Cap Times
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby rabble » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:27 am

Mad Howler wrote:They should get a clue.
I do not think people here in this state are nessessarily against mining, ya know the whole badger thing and all.
It seems that WE as a collective will refuse to be dictated to.
If you current players in the mining business want in, I would suggest MUCH less subversive measures.
Players, endevour as you have at your own peril.

But hey, what the hell do I know.

From where I'm sittin' it looks like they know exactly what they're doing and how to get it done quick.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby Francis Di Domizio » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:42 am

Henry Vilas wrote:
"The GOP bill that passed on a party-line vote would let GTAC close off the land in Wisconsin's Managed Forest Law program without paying a tax penalty of nearly a half-million dollars. At a meeting captured by WisconsinEye, Sen. Glenn Grothman (R-West Bend) said the aim was to prevent incidents like one in early June when a group of about 15 people shouted obscenities and threats at test drill workers. 'We want people working in the state of Wisconsin,' said Grothman. 'We don't want to have them scared to death.'"

Cap Times


Nothing to add here, just curious if it was Grothman or the Cap Times that left out the parts about vandalism and a worker being assaulted.
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby Mad Howler » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:23 pm

rabble wrote:From where I'm sittin' it looks like they know exactly what they're doing and how to get it done quick.

I wholly agree with you.
If you are going to 'achieve' unpopular policies.
You better do it quickly and direct efforts to restrictions on voters.
This all makes perfect sense to the short sighted.
I am speaking to something more durable.
Why do we have such trouble with this?
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Re: Penokee Hills

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:24 am

It isn't just Madison liberals who oppose the huge open pit mine up north. People in the surrounding counties of the proposed mine also are against it.

Poll finds limited support for iron ore mine in northern Wisconin

The argument that the mine would create jobs also doesn't sway their negative opinions.
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