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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:44 pm

http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATUR...s/AdmMoore.htm
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, (ret)
1912 - Feb 5, 2004
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Betrayal behind Israeli
attack on U.S. ship
By ADM. THOMAS MOORER
Moorer was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff from 1970 to 1974

After State Department officials and historians assembled in Washington, D.C., last week to discuss the 1967 war in the Middle East, I am compelled to speak out about one of U.S. history's most shocking cover-ups. On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked our proud naval ship -- the USS Liberty --killing 34 American servicemen and wounding 172. Those men were then betrayed and left to die by our own government. After an exhaustive review of previous reports, naval and other military records, including eyewitness testimony from survivors, we recently presented our findings on Capitol Hill. They include:

* Israeli reconnaissance aircraft closely studied the Liberty during an eight-hour period prior to the attack, one flying within 200 feet of the ship.
* Weather reports confirm the day was clear with unlimited visibility.
* The Liberty was a clearly marked American ship in international waters, flying an American flag and carrying large U.S. Navy hull letters and numbers on its bow.

Despite claims by Israeli intelligence that they confused the Liberty with a small Egyptian transport, the Liberty was conspicuously different from any vessel in the Egyptian navy. It was the most sophisticated intelligence ship in the world in 1967.With its massive radio antennae, including a large satellite dish, it looked like a large lobster and was one of the most easily identifiable ships afloat.

* Israel attempted to prevent the Liberty's radio operators from sending a call for help by jamming American emergency radio channels.
* Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned lifeboats at close range that had been lowered to rescue the most seriously wounded. TOP

As a result, our commission concluded that:

* There is compelling evidence that Israel's attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew.
* In attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against U.S. servicemen and an act of war against the United States.
* The White House knowingly covered up the facts of this attack from the American people.


Why do you suppose our Government covered up Israel's attack?
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby Lily » Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:46 pm

Bland wrote:What I see is a very complicated, very old hatred, seething and burning on both sides with idiots who hinder peace on both ends of the spectrum.

Peace can only be achieved when the interests and concerns of both parties are considered.

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Bland, I think you've said it and I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:40 pm

I especially think that when you support the side committing the most crimes, Israel's, and you are attacked for it losing trillions of $s, that it's time to take a closer look and perhaps do something to avoid that.

I agree that it is complicated only because we made it that way. We created a monster, a country that operates outside of the borders of International laws, one that even arrogantly attacked us, who is currently defying our President, despite the billions in welfare we give them, by building more settlements on land they do not own. There is no playing field when it's this tilted and no one acts on it.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/deutsc ... ber-alles/

http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topic ... -the-story
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby davidgreem » Thu May 13, 2010 6:55 am

Actually Isarael eventually does keep on attacking Gaza strip, they want it completely free from the militants over there and they are aiming to capture the same as early as possible in order to increase their strength and to show how powerfull they are ?? Due to American back support they are capable of acheiving that.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Thu May 13, 2010 1:35 pm

davidgreem wrote:Actually Isarael eventually does keep on attacking Gaza strip, they want it completely free from the militants over there and they are aiming to capture the same as early as possible in order to increase their strength and to show how powerful they are ?? Due to American back support they are capable of achieving that.
If it was REALLY about getting rid of the militants, it still doesn't convincingly explain why they bombed Gaza streets at exactly the same time school kids would be in the streets, targeted schools and UN shelters, killed a UN worker in a marked truck and shot a Red Cross worker both during lulls in the fighting they agreed too, used Palestinian kids as human shields, used white phosphorus and depleted Uranium shells, shot up all the animals in an abandoned zoo; sanction food, water and medicine to levels almost never over 20% of what's needed after destroying Gaza's manufacturing and agricultural base, steal their offshore oil while shooting fishermen, shooting farmers anywhere near the border, shooting unarmed kids in the backs of their heads and almost always lying about it, have Rabbis explain to Israel's troops that it's a religious war, and killed 894 civilians to approximately 300 militants.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:12 pm

Another inside view...

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... o-fascist/

Max Blumenthal’s sprawling portrait of contemporary Israel is far more a work of journalism than political theory. It largely avoids sustained argument or analysis, allowing its main points to be inferred through the words of Israelis and Palestinians and short contemporary or historical descriptions, presented in several dozen vignette-like chapters. This is nonetheless a bold and shocking book, presenting persuasively a major theoretical and polemical argument about Israel almost completely at odds with the image most Americans have of it.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:21 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/opini ... paper&_r=1


Don’t Trust This Spy
By M. E. BOWMANJAN. 14, 2014

WASHINGTON — Jonathan Jay Pollard liked to imagine his life was greater than it was. He told fanciful tales to peers while at Stanford in the 1970s, including that he was a Mossad officer and that he had once been captured and tortured by Arabs.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:36 pm

weird...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.560819

The Palestinians have had to freeze their application to become a member state of the International Olive Council due to opposition by Germany and Britain.

According to European diplomatic sources, German and British representatives claimed that letting the Palestinians join the council could sabotage the Israeli-Palestinian talks now taking place under American auspices. The talks’ resumption was conditioned on Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners in exchange for a Palestinian promise not to try to join various UN organizations, and not address the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby Detritus » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:23 pm

jonnygothispen wrote:weird...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.560819

The Palestinians have had to freeze their application to become a member state of the International Olive Council due to opposition by Germany and Britain.

According to European diplomatic sources, German and British representatives claimed that letting the Palestinians join the council could sabotage the Israeli-Palestinian talks now taking place under American auspices. The talks’ resumption was conditioned on Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners in exchange for a Palestinian promise not to try to join various UN organizations, and not address the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Of course, why didn't I realize that? Peace talks are not being sabotaged by Israeli plans for more settlements on the West Bank--it's the potential membership of Palestine in the all-powerful Olive Council that stands to deep-six the negotiations.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby Francis Di Domizio » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:11 am

Olive Oil is of course a massive destabilizing force
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby Detritus » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:27 pm

Francis Di Domizio wrote:Olive Oil is of course a massive destabilizing force

Not if you emulsify it with a raw egg.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby jonnygothispen » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 pm

The recent attacks on Gaza reminded me of this 2009 article by Robert Fisk....

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 30046.html

Not much has changed...
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby Sandi » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:46 am

I guess this is the "we bigots hate the Jews" thread... just thought I would take a peek.
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Re: Israel's war crimes

Postby wack wack » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:58 am

Sandi wrote:I guess this is the "we bigots hate the Jews" thread... just thought I would take a peek.


Do you have time for this? Your presence here means that Netanyahu's pole is currently mouthless. You never add anything here, why risk it? Get back to work, fluffer.
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