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Klimate Kooks Korrekt

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Sun May 12, 2013 10:10 am

Nothing like a brisk walk on a chilly day, counting all the lawns in the neighborhood that were turned into little dust bowls by last summer's drought. I predict a grass seed shortage. Stock up while you can.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Leroy Gates » Mon May 13, 2013 8:50 am

Ned Flanders wrote:
Henry Vilas wrote:Greenhouse gas milestone; CO2 levels set record

Nothing to worry about, hey Ned?

Not sure. Too cold to think about global warming today.


Exactly, record CO2 levels and a record cold Spring. It's Al Gore who should be worrying.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Mon May 13, 2013 9:04 am

Yeah. That drought last summer? Just a glitch. Nothing to worry about. Weather service prediction that this summer's going to be just as bad? Junk science.

Because today it's chilly, dammit. So forget all that drought crap.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Mon May 13, 2013 9:39 am

My outside thermometer show that it is now 2 degrees warmer than it was just an hour ago. 2 degrees an hour! How long will this heat wave continue!!!!
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Wed May 15, 2013 10:09 am

"I feel the Earth move under my feet".

Researchers at the University of Texas, Austin, report that increased melting of the Greenland ice sheet — and to a lesser extent, ice loss in other parts of the globe — have helped to shift the North Pole several centimetres east each year since 2005.

They found that recent accelerated ice loss and associated sea-level rise accounted for more than 90% of the post-2005 polar shift.

We're just shifting the axis of the planet. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Thu May 16, 2013 9:56 pm

Consensus: 97% of climate science papers that take a position on global warming agree warming is man-made
Abstract
We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11?944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.

Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.

In a second phase of this study, we invited authors to rate their own papers. Compared to abstract ratings, a smaller percentage of self-rated papers expressed no position on AGW (35.5%). Among self-rated papers expressing a position on AGW, 97.2% endorsed the consensus.

For both abstract ratings and authors' self-ratings, the percentage of endorsements among papers expressing a position on AGW marginally increased over time. Our analysis indicates that the number of papers rejecting the consensus on AGW is a vanishingly small proportion of the published research.


Oh, and the Guardian's got an article on it too.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Sandi » Thu May 16, 2013 10:34 pm

Abstract
We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11?944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.


And since when is consensus science? It isn't.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Fri May 17, 2013 7:02 am

That is correct.

It's just proof that scientists who deny AGW are becoming harder and harder to find.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 2:57 pm

rabble wrote:That is correct.

It's just proof that scientists who deny AGW are becoming harder and harder to find.


It is proof of nothing, because opinion without the scientific method is meaningless.

However even under your false assumption, the opposite is true.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby fisticuffs » Fri May 17, 2013 3:00 pm

Sandi wrote:
rabble wrote:That is correct.

It's just proof that scientists who deny AGW are becoming harder and harder to find.


It is proof of nothing, because opinion without the scientific method is meaningless.

However even under your false assumption, the opposite is true.


Sandi is right. They've always been hard to find. The few that exist are buried deep in the bellies of coal factories and Fox News.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 3:10 pm

fisticuffs wrote:Sandi is right. They've always been hard to find. The few that exist are buried deep in the bellies of coal factories and Fox News.


If you have nothing to add, why do you persist in trolling?
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Stebben84 » Fri May 17, 2013 3:15 pm

Sandi wrote:
fisticuffs wrote:Sandi is right. They've always been hard to find. The few that exist are buried deep in the bellies of coal factories and Fox News.


If you have nothing to add, why do you persist in trolling?


Why must you attack the messenger.

Sandi wrote:It is proof of nothing, because opinion without the scientific method is meaningless.


The consensus was based on what scientific papers were saying. Are you calling peer reviewed papers opinions? I'd rather have fisti add his snark than you add your dumb.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Fri May 17, 2013 3:27 pm

Sandi wrote: opinion without the scientific method is meaningless.

Correct. All those silly climate-change deniers, who are spouting opinions with absolutely no scientific method, are just meaningless.

Choosing to do nothing is making a choice: its choosing to believe the marginal few instead of the overwhelming majority of scientists.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 4:31 pm

DCB wrote:
Sandi wrote: opinion without the scientific method is meaningless.

Correct. All those silly climate-change deniers, who are spouting opinions with absolutely no scientific method, are just meaningless.

Choosing to do nothing is making a choice: its choosing to believe the marginal few instead of the overwhelming majority of scientists.


No. It is making a choice based on science, rather than consensus.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 4:35 pm

Stebben84 wrote:The consensus was based on what scientific papers were saying. Are you calling peer reviewed papers opinions? I'd rather have fisti add his snark than you add your dumb.


No, it is not.
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