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This is what real labor looks like

Postby Crockett » Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:12 pm

"LONGVIEW, Wash. (AP) — Hundreds of Longshoremen stormed the Port of Longview early Thursday, overpowered and held security guards, damaged railroad cars, and dumped grain that is the center of a labor dispute, said Longview Police Chief Jim Duscha."

"No one was hurt, and nobody has been arrested. Most of the protesters returned to their union hall after cutting brake lines and spilling grain from car at the EGT terminal, Duscha said."

I'm actually proud of them. I may lean economically conservative at times but I believe in the (once) healthy power struggle between PRIVATE labor and corporations.

Good for them.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby snoqueen » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:38 pm

And the award for Most Inscrutable Foron goes to...
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby ArturoBandini » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:44 pm

Are you trolling, Crockett? How is trespassing and destruction of property supposed to help the public opinion of these guys?

Here is a real winner ILWU member threatening a seemingly neutral news crew with charges of trespassing in the union HQ parking lot.

I wonder if automated shipping terminals are part of Obama's infrastructure vision.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby fisticuffs » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:56 pm

Can't say I agree with their tactics at all but I do remember some people destroying some private property tossing tea shipments into a harbor somewhere. So this isn't without precedent.

I wonder if automated shipping terminals are part of Obama's infrastructure vision.


Are they roads, bridges, and schools? then no.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby pjbogart » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:09 pm

Get used to it. As the rich and powerful continue to squeeze the working class for every ounce of leverage they once enjoyed, we can expect to see more and more attacks on the monied interests. Predictably, propagandists such as Crockett will use this as evidence of the unreasonableness of the working class, but people will fight for their standard of living, particularly if their standard of living simply includes enough money to pay their mortgage and put food on the table.

Eventually we'll hit another mini-Bolshevik revolution ala Roosevelt and we'll begin rebuilding this country from the ground up. The question for the wealthy is: would you rather pony up 3% more now or 50% more later? This is still a Democracy and when the masses wake up and realize that the anti-Union crowd is fighting only for the top 1% there will be hell to pay.

If you insist on kicking a sleeping dog, don't complain when you get bit.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby Igor » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:47 pm

pjbogart wrote:Predictably, propagandists such as Crockett will use this as evidence of the unreasonableness of the working class, but people will fight for their standard of living, particularly if their standard of living simply includes enough money to pay their mortgage and put food on the table.

Eventually we'll hit another mini-Bolshevik revolution ala Roosevelt and we'll begin rebuilding this country from the ground up.


It is important to note that the Bolshevik revolution and the New Deal both occurred when people did not have homes or food, much less mortgages. Both management and union employees in the current situation here fall in the 93rd - 99th percentile of world wealth.

Not saying that the fight won't be successful - but this fight has some important differences.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby cxl01 » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:32 pm

And the self-loathing union membership award goes to...
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby Peanutbutter » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:53 pm

Typical union behavior -attacking people and destroying property when they don't get paid as much as they want to.

Typical responses from the liberals - attacking the person reporting the news while saying nothing at all about the violent crimes being committed by those west coast thugs.

Typical mainstream media - protecting their fellow travelers by burying the story.


The only thing unusual about any of this is Henry hasn't posted some reference to an incident generations ago that is supposed to somehow show that the unions are really the victims in all of this.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby bdog » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:28 pm

Pb you better start using your weekends for better things than posting here 'cause you ain't gonna have 'em for long in FitzWalkerKochPotterville.

See you in the salt mines my friend.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:24 am

Typical political hyperbole.
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby DCB » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:18 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:Typical political hyperbole.

and typical corporate behavior - demanding handouts from taxpayers, with the promise of 'creating jobs', then failing to live up its promise:

EGT Development is a joint venture of Japan-based Itochu Corp, South Korea’s STX Pan Ocean and St. Louis-based Bunge North America. Like so many corporations that promise good jobs to get what they want, EGT got a special state tax exemption and a sweetheart lease deal from the Port of Longview to build a $200 million grain terminal there. The government even seized adjacent land for the project. But as soon as the deal’s ink was dry and the ceremonial first shovel of dirt was overturned two years ago, EGT began running the project on the cheap.

Despite high unemployment in Cowlitz County and the availability of hundreds of skilled union building trades workers, EGT imported the vast majority of its construction crews from low-wage communities out-of-state and did not pay area standard wages, leading to howls from the local labor community.

After the terminal was built, EGT decided to ignore the Port of Longview’s contract with ILWU Local 21 to hire union labor on its leased site. Instead, the multinational conglomerate hired non-union workers — claiming it would save the company $1 million a year (a figure the company later admitted had been plucked from the sky) — and EGT sued the Port, arguing it was not bound by the contract with the ILWU.

http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?st ... 0131057170
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Re: This is what real labor looks like

Postby Ned Flanders » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:25 pm

Fits into the DPF mindset: unlimited outrage against an old man who might have put his hands on an old bag who took a run at him.

Laughingly brush off physical violence, intimidation and property damange from union thugs.

Carry on.
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