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States Rights? Right.

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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Meade » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:15 am

wack wack wrote:Again, where are all the "states rights" Republicans now?

States' rights was primarily a racialist segregationist Democrat concept during the civil rights movement in the 50's and 60's. Most Republicans understand that states don't have rights, they have powers. Only people have rights.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby jman111 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:18 am

Peanutbutter wrote:Yes, we're talking about drugs like pot not alcohol and tobacco. Please try and keep up.

I'm just trying to catch up with this discussion. (Once there, I'll keep up. I promise.)

PB, could you clarify what other substances are "drugs like pot", if not alcohol and tobacco?
Thanks.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby wack wack » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:20 am

Meade wrote:
wack wack wrote:Again, where are all the "states rights" Republicans now?

States' rights was primarily a racialist segregationist Democrat concept during the civil rights movement in the 50's and 60's. Most Republicans understand that states don't have rights, they have powers. Only people have rights.


I'm sorry, have you been under a rock for the last three years?
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Peanutbutter » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:22 am

wack wack wrote:In light of the Fed's interference with activities deemed legal by the State of California, where are all the "states rights" Republicans now?


I don't understand the question. Are you saying that it is wrong for Obama to go after these druggies?


And what is it with liberals always bringing up alcohol and tobacco every time drugs are talked about? How burnt out does your mind have to be in order to think that weed = beer? :roll:
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby wack wack » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:26 am

Peanutbutter wrote:
wack wack wrote:In light of the Fed's interference with activities deemed legal by the State of California, where are all the "states rights" Republicans now?


I don't understand the question. Are you saying that it is wrong for Obama to go after these druggies?


And what is it with liberals always bringing up alcohol and tobacco every time drugs are talked about? How burnt out does your mind have to be in order to think that weed = beer? :roll:


You have to be absolutely ignorant or completely disingenuous to claim that weed is more dangerous than beer.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Peanutbutter » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:29 am

wack wack wrote:You have to be absolutely ignorant or completely disingenuous to claim that weed is more dangerous than beer.


Then why is Obama arresting druggies instead of drunks?

:roll:

And please explain why you are upset with Republicans about this. Like I said before, it is one of the few things he is doing right so why should anyone (except for the drug addicts of course) be upset about this?
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby jman111 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:40 am

ahem.
jman111 wrote:PB, could you clarify what other substances are "drugs like pot", if not alcohol and tobacco?
Thanks.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby wack wack » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:43 am

Peanutbutter wrote:
wack wack wrote:You have to be absolutely ignorant or completely disingenuous to claim that weed is more dangerous than beer.


Then why is Obama arresting druggies instead of drunks?

:roll:

And please explain why you are upset with Republicans about this. Like I said before, it is one of the few things he is doing right so why should anyone (except for the drug addicts of course) be upset about this?


Feel free to demonstrate how weed is more dangerous than beer. Or peanuts, for that matter.

Do you really think the Fed's crackdown has something to do with the properties of the actual substance? How cutely naive.

I would expect Republicans who are concerned and vocal about the Fed's interference in their states' rights regarding health care to be equally concerned about the Fed's police action against individual states.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Peanutbutter » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:45 am

jman111 wrote:ahem.
jman111 wrote:PB, could you clarify what other substances are "drugs like pot", if not alcohol and tobacco?
Thanks.


The opening post was about weed. wack-wack is pissed off at the Republicans because Obama is busting pot dealers.

Henry tried to cloud the issue by bring up alcohol and tobacco. I'm trying to stay focused on the actual topic.

Now that you're caught up please feel free to address the actual topic.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Peanutbutter » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:50 am

wack wack wrote:Do you really think the Fed's crackdown has something to do with the properties of the actual substance? How cutely naive.


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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby rabble » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:50 am

Peanutbutter wrote:The opening post was about weed. wack-wack is pissed off at the Republicans because Obama is busting pot dealers.

Henry tried to cloud the issue by bring up alcohol and tobacco. I'm trying to stay focused on the actual topic.

Now that you're caught up please feel free to address the actual topic.

Oh, bullshit. The issue is, why is pot dangerous and must be eradicated but alcohol, which kills thousands and ruins lives, is not but is sold in massive quantities to people who then go and jump into their cars.

That's part and parcel of the issue. Whether you want it to go away or not.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Meade » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:52 am

wack wack wrote:You have to be absolutely ignorant or completely disingenuous to claim that weed is more dangerous than beer.

Plain weed is more dangerous than medical beer.

Medical weed, of course, is a panacea. Even President Choom knows that. Whereas, the only things medical beer cures is thirst for more beer and last night's hangover from drinking too much beer due to an unquenchable thirst for beer.

Plus, beer has side effects - such as the technical pathological condition known as beer gut.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Meade » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:55 am

Medical weed does have some side effects of its own, of course.

In large dosage, it causes users to believe - mistakenly - that it is others, not themselves, who are absolutely ignorant and completely disingenuous.
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby Peanutbutter » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:57 am

rabble wrote:why is pot dangerous


The Surgeon General has the answer for that:

Among the known or suspected chronic effects of marijuana are:

short-term memory impairment and slowness of learning.

impaired lung function similar to that found in cigarette smokers. Indications are that more serious effects, such as cancer and other lung disease, follow extended use.

decreased sperm count and sperm motility.

interference with ovulation and pre-natal development.

impaired immune response.

possible adverse effects on heart function.

by-products of marijuana remaining in body fat for several weeks, with unknown consequences. The storage of these by-products increases the possiblilties for chronic, as well as residual, effects on performance, even after the acute reaction to the drug has worn off. Of special concern are the long-term developmental effects in children and adolescents, who are particularly vulnerable to the drug's behavioral and psychological effects. The "amotivational syndrome," characterized by a pattern of energy loss, diminished school performance, harmed parental relationships, and other behavorial disruptions, has been associated with prolonged marijuana use by young persons.


http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001143.htm
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Re: States Rights? Right.

Postby ilikebeans » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:59 am

Obama's complete 180 on his campaign promises against raiding dispensaries has been one of the biggest disappointments of his administration.

Oh, and Peanutbutter, you still have no ability to reason. But hey, keep digging that hole, cause it's rather entertaining to see this myopia laid out for all to digest.

[reads Meade's latest post] Yep, you too.
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