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Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby Marvell » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:38 pm

Now that the holy time is near at hand, maybe it's time all us true believers started our annual yammering about the upcoming Packers season.

Stomping the Browns in the first pre-season game of the year means absolutely squat, obviously. But that never stopped anyone from reading the Green and Gold tea leaves for presentiments of Packer prognostications.

My thoughts:

The first-team O looked awful impressive - especially the receiving corps, which is again as deep and talented as I've ever seen it, and maybe as deep and talented as I've ever seen any group of wide-outs / tight ends be on any team anywhere. Rogers looked great; second team back-up looked okay. Third string guy is a chump, and should be on the cut list.

First team D looked okay; I like the energy and hustle from the LB corps, which is obviously going to be key to the success of the 3-4. Kampmann looks like he's going to make the transition okay, and may be even more of a force as a pass rusher. They looked a little shakier against the run game, but with Raji yet to appear and Barnett coming back from his knee injury this should improve with time.

My main concern is with special teams, and with the depth in the defensive secondary and on the D and O lines. But at first blush this seems to be team poised to make a serious rebound from an off year.

Me likey. We'll see how rosy my glasses are soon.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby fisticuffs » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:45 pm

Me also likey. Looked damn good for preseason. The O line could have played better but we havent even figured out who's starting and where. They could be key this season. Rogers looked great. Flynn looked passable. and Brohm looked downright awful. How is that? He was highly scouted and played great in college. Flynn was on a D first team and started for what? one year?
Anyways makes you think twice about taking a QB high in the draft.

The D. You know what they were great. Maybe not individually as there is still a lot of work to be done but the 3-4 looks like a lot of fun to me. The Scheme was responsible for the shutout more so than the players. Get Raji in there and get everyone up to speed and it could be a really tough D. Especially in our divisional games where teams pretty much knew what we were about.

Ah Football. Why can't they play for 8 damned months instead of baseball.

Predictions? Barring injury to Rogers I say 11/5 maybe better. The schedule is a lot kinder than last years.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby supaunknown » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:14 pm

I'm not sold on the 3-4 defense being able to stop the run. If there's only 3 down linemen & the LBs are lined up off the line of scrimmage, it essentially gives the offensive line numbers & a head start into whatever blocking scheme they're trying to establish. The DT is the most important guy out there.

Look for the Pack to revert to a 4-3 or even a 4-6 and stack the line of scrimmage against Minnesota and Chicago.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby Beer Moon » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:01 pm

Keep in mind we were also missing Woodson and Harris...

I am excited for our offense this year, I think Rodgers is only going to get better - we need to keep him armed with receivers.

The Browns were a nice soft starter team for our defense in the new scheme. Hopefully it will help them get off to a good start. Hard to tell what was pressure from our D and what was a bad offensive line...
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby Marvell » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:05 pm

Next question:

Packers vs. Titans - ass-pounding? Or legendary ass-pounding?
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby fisticuffs » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:13 pm

Packers vs. Titans - ass-pounding? Or legendary ass-pounding?


Considering the starters from both teams may only get one series if that I'm going to go with a simple Ass-Pounding. But this also means Vince Young will be getting a lot of playing time and that con only be good news for the packers score. If Rogers and the 1 st string D were playing more that would be a legendary ass-pounding if there is such a thing in pre-season. Better question is Packers v. Bears in week one. I expect their O to be much much improved but so is the Packers D. I expect the Bears once fearsome D to show up with gray hair and walkers and get thoroughly thrashed by A-Rodg and company.
Pack- 37 Bears 17.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby baboocole » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:40 pm

I will be there first-hand to witness the impending squashing of the Packers by the Bears.

:mrgreen: So Excited!!!!Image
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby Marvell » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:41 am

A couple thoughts after last night's game:

1.) I guess we keep Brohm after all.

2.) Special teams still has me worried. Too many yards allowed to them; not enough yards picked up by us. Ruvell Martin may have played himself off the roster with that muffed fair catch.

3.) Raji may not be ready for prime time yet.

4.) Nick Barnett is still a spazz. Everybody in the stadium knows Vince Young would rather run for it on 3rd and 15 than throw it; how the hell do you get that out of position?

5.) Still concerned about depth in the defensive secondary.

6.) All the other teams in the league will be watching the Packers' discard pile at WR and RB and licking their chops. Whatever group we end up keeping will be one of, if not the, elite corps in the NFC.

Predictions for regular season?

Somewhere between 9-7 and 12-4. You heard it here first.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby boston_jeff » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:23 am

You really went out on a limb with that prediction. Something tells me sports handicapping is in your future...
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby fisticuffs » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:29 am

I'd like to make my prediction. Somewhere between 0-16 and 16-0. With a possible super bowl title all the way down to no playoff birth.

The only thing more certain than that is that the Black and Blue division is certainly going to live up to its name.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby O.J. » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:49 am

I predict A-Rodg wins the award for Best Porn Mustache in the NFL.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby Marvell » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:19 am

boston_jeff wrote:You really went out on a limb with that prediction. Something tells me sports handicapping is in your future...


What the hell do I look like to you - Mel Kuiper?

But if you're going to be all pissy about it I'll just point out that predictions are a mug's racket, given that we don't know how the season's going to play out. On paper the Packers look like a 12-4 team to me, but that's assuming the continued health of Aaron Rogers; if the bearded one blows out a knee or breaks an arm, I still think they've got enough juice to finish on the happy side of .500 - but just barely.

So - having noted the pointlessness of this kind of granular handicapping, I'll go ahead and do it anyway:

Sun., Sept. 13 Chicago Bears (W)
Sun., Sept. 20 Cincinnati Bengals (W)
Sun., Sept. 27 @ St. Louis Rams (W)
Mon., Oct. 5 @ Minnesota Vikings (L)
Sun., Oct. 18 Detroit Lions (W - may set NFL record for most lopsided win, breaking the Bears legendary 73-0 ass-stomping of the Redskins in the 1940 title game)
Sun., Oct. 25 @ Cleveland Browns (W)
Sun., Nov. 1 Minnesota Vikings (W)
Sun., Nov. 8 @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers (L)
Sun., Nov. 15 Dallas Cowboys (W)
Sun., Nov. 22 San Francisco 49ers (W)
Thurs., Nov. 26 @ Detroit Lions (W)
Mon., Dec. 7 Baltimore Ravens (L - Joe Flacco runs wild)
Sun., Dec. 13 @ Chicago Bears (W)
Sun., Dec. 20 @ Pittsburgh Steelers (L)
Sun., Dec. 27 Seattle Seahawks (W)
Sun., Jan. 3 @ Arizona Cardinals (W)

There's your 12-4, right there.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby tibor » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:28 am

Marvell wrote:3.) Raji may not be ready for prime time yet.


Are you nuts? Did you watch the play where he drew the holding call? He absolutely destroyed his guy. The Titans have the best line in football. Watch him collapse the pocket against the Bills:

It was also fun watching Quinn Johnson wreck linebackers. I hope they can get some kind of trade worked out for Kuehn or Hall, don't think Johnson will make it to practice team.

I actually thought special teams looked a lot better than last year. Mostly worried about left tackle - Clifton needs to stay healthy this year, if he doesn't we're in a lot of trouble. Bring on da bears.
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby boston_jeff » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:56 am

Marvell wrote:
boston_jeff wrote:You really went out on a limb with that prediction. Something tells me sports handicapping is in your future...


What the hell do I look like to you - Mel Kuiper?

But if you're going to be all pissy about it I'll just point out that predictions are a mug's racket, given that we don't know how the season's going to play out. On paper the Packers look like a 12-4 team to me, but that's assuming the continued health of Aaron Rogers; if the bearded one blows out a knee or breaks an arm, I still think they've got enough juice to finish on the happy side of .500 - but just barely.

So - having noted the pointlessness of this kind of granular handicapping, I'll go ahead and do it anyway:

Sun., Sept. 13 Chicago Bears (W)
Sun., Sept. 20 Cincinnati Bengals (W)
Sun., Sept. 27 @ St. Louis Rams (W)
Mon., Oct. 5 @ Minnesota Vikings (L)
Sun., Oct. 18 Detroit Lions (W - may set NFL record for most lopsided win, breaking the Bears legendary 73-0 ass-stomping of the Redskins in the 1940 title game)
Sun., Oct. 25 @ Cleveland Browns (W)
Sun., Nov. 1 Minnesota Vikings (W)
Sun., Nov. 8 @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers (L)
Sun., Nov. 15 Dallas Cowboys (W)
Sun., Nov. 22 San Francisco 49ers (W)
Thurs., Nov. 26 @ Detroit Lions (W)
Mon., Dec. 7 Baltimore Ravens (L - Joe Flacco runs wild)
Sun., Dec. 13 @ Chicago Bears (W)
Sun., Dec. 20 @ Pittsburgh Steelers (L)
Sun., Dec. 27 Seattle Seahawks (W)
Sun., Jan. 3 @ Arizona Cardinals (W)

There's your 12-4, right there.


That's more like it, own your predictions Marvell!
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Re: Packer Pre-season Pululations

Postby Marvell » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:57 am

tibor wrote:
Marvell wrote:3.) Raji may not be ready for prime time yet.


Are you nuts? Did you watch the play where he drew the holding call? He absolutely destroyed his guy.


Yeah, and then he tried to rip Vince Young's head off.

As Charles Bronson would put it, "NOT smart."

I don't doubt that the kid will come around; he might just have to start the season on the bench. S'all I'm saying.
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