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Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

Postby minicat » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:55 pm

So, I think the Brewers recent whining to MLB about hit by pitches is goofy and makes them look somewhat like jerks. Baseball tradition has always been that if your guys are getting nailed on a regular basis, your pitching staff needs to man up and be brushing people back as well.

However ... what just happened in today's game makes me wonder if the Brewers can get away with that. So far this season, the Cubs have hit the Crew 13 times to one time a Brewers pitcher has hit a Cubs batter. Nevertheless, today when the Cubs are leading 10-3, LaTroy Hawkins just got ejected with no warnings for grazing a Cub jersey. The other night a Cub hit a Brewer in the head and was not ejected.

What. A. Joke.
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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

Postby drinkinblackcoffee » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:47 pm

The number of times Fielder and Weeks have been hit is ridiculous.

We seem to be lacking a thug in the bullpen to equalize things a bit - where did McClung go anyway?
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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

Postby wack wack » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:06 am

Oh, please. Have you looked at the Cubs pitching roster lately? Take a look, tell me how many of those names you knew before this series. Especially in the pen, they're all young and wild, nothing more. Did you count the number of walks in clearly anti-strategic situations? Did you see the regular frustration in Soto's motions to the pitchers about keeping the ball down and out? They just can't pitch very well, that's all.

Beyond that, there is no way a team that gets beaned as much as the Brewers do can blame the other pitchers. The hitters need to learn to get out of the way.
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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

Postby minicat » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:58 am

Perhaps my question isn't clear enough here, so I'll restate it: Why, if the Cubs pitchers have hit the Brewers batters 13 times to one HBP by Brewers pitchers, is it the Brewers pitcher who gets ejected with no warning?
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Postby TheBookPolice » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:06 am

Because the umps probably know they let it get out of hand with opposing pitchers either A) throwing intentionally at, or B) throwing sloppily around the Brewers' batters, and they really don't want to see a retaliation war that approaches a proportional response. So they yank back on the first sign of retaliation.

In other words, the horse is out of the barn.
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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

Postby wallrock » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:58 am

It also wasn't like Hawkins was retaliating for a HBP the inning prior. He had just given up a three run shot to Soto and threw the next pitch at Soriano. The home plate ump had already given a warning to both benches, so an ejection was basically automatic.

Fielder and Weeks are leading the league in getting plunked. I'd put the disparity between HBP numbers as a combination of the relative inaccuracy of the Cubs pen (Marmol seems to hit a lot of guys, not exactly a great trait for a closer) and the tendency of Brewers hitters to crowd the plate.
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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

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Re: Brewers and HBPs: Getting ridiculous

Postby minicat » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:27 am

Last night Kennedy just appeared to be having major control problems.

Brewers still shoulda won, despite the ridiculously depleted lineup ... bullpen let them down.
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