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Iran's Addiction

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What should be done with Iran?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:28 am

Knockout Their Only Oil Refinery and Block Their Ports
2
50%
Retaliate like the Israel did with Lebanon a few months ago
0
No votes
UK Should Take Back What is Theirs By Force Like They Did in the Falklands
0
No votes
Do Nothing and Hope They Give Back The Hostages Someday
2
50%
 
Total votes : 4

Iran's Addiction

Postby The Tolerator » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:28 am

WWJD?

What Would Jimmy Do?

There are about 4 options for the situation with Iran. One has been done by Israel, one by Jimmy Carter (our best President ever), and one done by the UK.

Maybe we should just try to understand them. What could the Brits have done to Iran to make this happen?
What? What? What? Surely it is their own fault.

So far the world doesn't seem to care that Iran is addicted to taking hostages. If Carter had had a spine with Iran, especially before the hostages were taken all those years ago, we wouldn't be over there today. Carter is almost single-handedly responsible for the world not be able to handle the Middle East. Had he supported the Shah (yes, not Shaw), Iran wouldn't be the radical cleric state it is today.
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby lordofthecockrings » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:33 am

The Tolerator wrote: Had he supported the Shaw, Iran wouldn't be the radical cleric state it is today.
Oh P'Shaw!

Do you mean George Bernard Shaw?
Tommy Shaw?
Artie Shaw?
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby The Tolerator » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:40 am

lordofthecockrings wrote:
The Tolerator wrote: Had he supported the Shaw, Iran wouldn't be the radical cleric state it is today.
Oh P'Shaw!

Do you mean George Bernard Shaw?
Tommy Shaw?
Artie Shaw?


Insightful!
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby lordofthecockrings » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:47 am

The Tolerator wrote:Insightful!
At least as much so as the tripe you post. What "insights" did you impart on us in your post exatcly? All I learned was that you are incapable of getting rid of your hard-on for Jimmy Carter (you do know that he's been out of office for 3 decades, right?)
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Postby doddles » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:48 am

Invade them with an army of 200000. Put Rummie in charge of strategy. Inact tax cuts for the rich to pay for it.

Easy. Works every time.
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby The Tolerator » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:48 am

lordofthecockrings wrote:
The Tolerator wrote:Insightful!
At least as much so as the tripe you post. What "insights" did you impart on us in your post exatcly? All I learned was that you are incapable of getting rid of your hard-on for Jimmy Carter (you do know that he's been out of office for 3 decades, right?)


He's gone, but not forgotten, since his lack of leadership and strength 3 decades ago has put us in our position today.
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Postby Ned Flanders » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:57 am

Well, we know we're dealing with a group who loves to take hostages. In fact, there is talk that the little Hitler was one of the "students" who took over the U.S. Embassy in '79. They are now toying with the Brits who apprear to be too scared to respond.

I don't know how long Blair been taking the estrogen injections, but England sorely needs a real man like Margaret Thatcher righ now. Sadly, nobody comes to mind.
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Postby Mike S. » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:59 am

In case you forgot, it wasn't just Jimmy Carter negotiating for the hostages. George Bush (the CIA guy, not the screwup kid) was assuring the Iranians that all they had to do was hold onto the hostages until Reagan got in and he'd get paid for them. Not only did arms-for-no-hostages work, it worked so well that it turned into a collaboration throughout the Reagan presidency that culminated in the Iran-Contra deals.

(Nor was that the first time something like this happened ... Nixon had his people persuade the North Vietnamese not to make peace with Johnson because they'd get a better deal with him)

As for the British "hostages"? Even our media admits the border is "disputed". The British admitted "straying" into Iranian territory in a previous incident in 2004. I am inclined to believe that the British entered territory that the Iranians claim. I have a suspicion that when Hussein was on the outs with Washington that even the U.S. must have backed the Iranian view of the border issue! The trick now is to try to negotiate something about that border that both sides can agree on. And of course the Iranians cannot be allowed to do anything barbaric to these people they are interrogating. I don't think there's proof the British intended anything hostile with this, but I don't think there's proof those Iranian detainees in Iraq were attacking U.S. forces either. In the end there has to be some kind of solid evidence or else everyone should just get sent home, just as the Iranians want. It doesn't have to be a terrible national disgrace if the U.S. doesn't stake its credibility on "winning" this very small point.
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby buckyor » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:46 pm

lordofthecockrings wrote:
The Tolerator wrote: Had he supported the Shaw, Iran wouldn't be the radical cleric state it is today.
Oh P'Shaw!

Do you mean George Bernard Shaw?
Tommy Shaw?
Artie Shaw?


You're gonna need a bigger boat.

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Postby Oprah » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:52 pm

Sometimes that shark he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a shark... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
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Postby Daisy » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:32 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:I don't know how long Blair been taking the estrogen injections
Wow, didn't take YOU long to turn on the one national leader of any note who backed The Chimp's misadventures in Iraq. With friends like you, who needs gonorrhea?

But I love the right's capacity for deductive logic. If just being in Iraq results in a quagmire from which we seem unable to extricate ourselves, then getting into Iraq AND Iran is TOTALLY gonna rock.

"Uniting the world, one geopolitical enemy at a time."
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Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:25 am

Ned just wants to speed up the arrive of the pre-tribulation rapture. He'll be in heaven when all hell breaks loose.
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby Old School Johnny » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:09 am

The Tolerator wrote:If Carter had had a spine with Iran, especially before the hostages were taken all those years ago, we wouldn't be over there today. Carter is almost single-handedly responsible for the world not be able to handle the Middle East.


Thank god Ronnie and Poppa Bush spent the next 12 years kicking Arab ass and putting those uppity middle easterners in their place, saving us all from the terrors of radical Islam.

Oh, wait...
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Re: Iran's Addiction

Postby TheBookPolice » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:37 am

The Tolerator wrote:Carter is almost single-handedly responsible for the world not be able to handle the Middle East. Had he supported the Shah (yes, not Shaw), Iran wouldn't be the radical cleric state it is today.


Ah, it wouldn't be....(what day is it?)....Friday, without stumbling across another tidbit of idiocy from The Tolerator.

You do know that the United States, under President Dwight Eisenhower (what party was he in, again?), illegally supported a coup against Mohammed Mossadeq that stunted Iran's political growth all the way through to today, right? You do know that this happened twenty years before Jimmy Carter became President, right?

No, come to think of it, it doesn't actually matter what you know, don't know, or think you know (those are the unknown unknowns, right?), because you're just going to post all that bullshit anyway.

I am, however, very disappointed in Foronistan for not collectively calling TT on this one, since (for some ungodly reason) some of you are actually still trying to engage TT.
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Postby Chuck_Schick » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:39 am

"He's history's greatest monster!"
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