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Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Huckleby » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:08 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/us/mi ... nears.html

Mississippi has passed a state law requiring that all clinics performing abortions have doctors with residency at the local hospital. This is, of course, an absurd requirement, other than to give local townfolk the ability to outlaw abortion. The last abortion clinic will be closed within days.

This is the same old Jim Crow type law of the old days, where they effectively try to subvert U.S. Law and the constitution. Will be interesting to see if U.S. Supreme Court lets this slide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiAtwQZnHs
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Meade » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:49 am

Why the allusion to the Nina Simone song about the murder of Medgar Evers?

Mississippi regulates abortion clinics. Huckleby would prefer unregulated abortion? Like that clinic in Philadelphia with the Dr. Kermit guy?
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby peripat » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:19 am

As I'm sure you know, when you regulate abortions you create a big black market in back alley abortions. We should be regulating the financial industry instead.
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Huckleby » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:26 am

Meade wrote:Why the allusion to the Nina Simone song about the murder of Medgar Evers?

Mississippi regulates abortion clinics.

Yes, Mississippi regulates abortions, just like they used to regulate black voting. Which is to say they make it effectively impossible for people to exercise their constitutional rights.

Totally different issue, but Mississippi is back at at it, trampling on another group's civil rights. Thus the old civil rights anthem.

I have respect for pro-lifers and their arguments. But when push comes to shove, I can't allow a safe abortion to (again) become the perogative of weathier women.
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Meade » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:46 am

Huckleby wrote:I have respect for pro-lifers and their arguments. But when push comes to shove, I can't allow a safe abortion to (again) become the perogative of weathier women.

When push comes to shove, Huckleby don't need a weathierwoman to know which way preogative is spelled.

Dr. Kermit Gosnell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:02 am

So Meade, how about sharing your view on the Mississippi regulation? Or do your libertarian leanings not include women making their own choices on issues of reproductive health? A link to a Wiki article about a corrupt doctor does not count. Nor does pointing out spelling mistakes.
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Meade » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:31 am

Why shouldn't the state of Mississippi assert its power to regulate abortion? How is that not constitutional? Mississippi wants to protect its citizens from the type of horrors that Dr. Kermit Gosnell visited upon the state of Pennsylvania. Do your progressive leanings include women being free to choose unrestricted unregulated abortion, Mr. Henry?
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:34 am

Straw man.
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Peanutbutter » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:41 am

The liberals don't want the government to regulate abortions at all, they just want government to pay for the abortions. To hell with patient safety, just show us the money!!
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:44 am

Does anyone really think that Mississippi passed this onerous regulation to protect the health of woman? Or is it just a craven move to restrict access to a legal medical procedure?
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Huckleby » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:53 am

Peanutbutter wrote:The liberals don't want the government to regulate abortions at all, they just want government to pay for the abortions. To hell with patient safety, just show us the money!!


No, as you know, this is not the view of liberals, or any sane person.
Jim Crow Laws were not enacted to prevent voter fraud, that was their justification.

Mississippi has used regulation to completely end legal abortion in the state. Can you dispute this statement?
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby snoqueen » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:55 am

This will increase non-medical abortions and result in an underground railroad taking women in need to providers in other locations, same as we had pre-Roe v Wade. Back then, there was an active organization of both Christian and Jewish clergy in Chicago that provided assistance to women across the upper Midwest (Clergy Consultation Services), and similar help was present in other locations across the country. You had to know who to ask because obviously they didn't advertise off the grapevine, but there will always be a grapevine.

Of course, the other consequence is more unwanted babies receiving inadequate care and having lifelong personal and family problems, but the state of Mississippi has nothing to do with that, right?
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Peanutbutter » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:57 am

Does anyone really think that Mississippi passed this onerous regulation to protect the health of woman?


Requiring a doctor to have admitting privileges to a local hospital is considered "onerous"?

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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:03 am

Peanutbutter wrote:
Does anyone really think that Mississippi passed this onerous regulation to protect the health of woman?


Requiring a doctor to have admitting privileges to a local hospital is considered "onerous"?

Then why haven't other states adopted such a regulation? Do you think Mississippi is a leader in protecting the health of women?
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Re: Mississippi Goddamn: this time it's abortion

Postby Peanutbutter » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:06 am

Huckleby wrote:Mississippi has used regulation to completely end legal abortion in the state. Can you dispute this statement?


This same law has been enacted in nine states other than Mississippi. Are you really claiming that abortion is "completely ended" in ten different states?

If that is true, then hopefully Wisconsin will become number eleven.
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