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97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Huckleby » Fri May 17, 2013 12:24 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/ ... 0020130516

This is not breaking news, but it is good to take notice as the scientific consensus on global warming edges up.

The hardcore GW deniers will argue that the measure of consensus, publications in peer-reviewed journals, is biased by government funding around the world - you don't get grants renewed when you report "nothing to see here." I will generously concede there is a sliver of truth to this argument. But bigger truth is that it's all over but the weaseling for GW deniers.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby fisticuffs » Fri May 17, 2013 12:35 pm

But those guys get PAID to figure this stuff out therefore they are liars.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Ned Flanders » Fri May 17, 2013 1:00 pm

The same percentage thought the world was flat.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby rabble » Fri May 17, 2013 1:04 pm

Huckleby wrote:The hardcore GW deniers will argue that the measure of consensus, publications in peer-reviewed journals, is biased by government funding around the world - you don't get grants renewed when you report "nothing to see here." I will generously concede there is a sliver of truth to this argument.

I won't.

Any scientist who can come up with a repeatable dependable study or test that even suggests AGW can be denied is guaranteed an unlimited supply of "grant money" for life. There are too many corporations out there who will pay big bucks to keep polluting just a little while longer.

And the best those corporations (and of course Ned) have been able to do is variations of "not enough data!"
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri May 17, 2013 1:05 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:The same percentage thought the world was flat.

Prior to the widespread acceptance of the scientific method. So what's your excuse in denying global warming? It wouldn't be political bias, would it?
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Prof. Wagstaff » Fri May 17, 2013 2:25 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:The same percentage thought the world was flat.
Um... no, Ned, there has never been a time when 97% of the world's scientists thought the world was flat.

For fuckssake, did you really type that?
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 2:39 pm

Henry Villas wrote:Prior to the widespread acceptance of the scientific method.


And consensus isn't science, so 97% scientist consensus serves no purpose other than to bolster an argument weak on scientific principle.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri May 17, 2013 2:42 pm

If it isn't the scientific method, then what process led the 97% to say that global warming is man-made? Scientists base their conclusions on the scientific method, don't they?
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby rabble » Fri May 17, 2013 2:51 pm

Sandi wrote:
Henry Villas wrote:Prior to the widespread acceptance of the scientific method.


And consensus isn't science, so 97% scientist consensus serves no purpose other than to bolster an argument weak on scientific principle.

It's kinda funny that it's getting harder and harder to find an actual scientist, anywhere, who agrees with that statement.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Galoot » Fri May 17, 2013 3:30 pm

Well, I have the troll ignored, but I gather that he claimed that at one time, 97% of the world's scientists thought the earth was flat.

Name them. The earth has been known to be spherical since at least 500 BCE.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Meade » Fri May 17, 2013 4:05 pm

97% consensus, huh.

Okay, here's one way we can cut global warming by half:
from http://wiki.answers.com
Half of all the carbon dioxide emissions from man made sources come from China (22%), America (20%), India (5%) and Russia (5%). The remaining 170 or so countries contribute the other 50%

China, America, India, and Russia should tell everyone else "Our 100% consensus: you should stop doing anything that contributes to global warming or else we'll have to kill you". Win-win-win-win.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby minicat » Fri May 17, 2013 4:21 pm

Sandi wrote:
Henry Villas wrote:Prior to the widespread acceptance of the scientific method.


And consensus isn't science, so 97% scientist consensus serves no purpose other than to bolster an argument weak on scientific principle.


jesus fucking christ on a kringle. you should stop hitting your head on things before you post.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 4:26 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:If it isn't the scientific method, then what process led the 97% to say that global warming is man-made? Scientists base their conclusions on the scientific method, don't they?


Yes sometimes, but they also base conclusions on...

Scientific method.

Get more grants.

Money.

Fame.

....
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 4:28 pm

minicat wrote:
Sandi wrote:
Henry Villas wrote:Prior to the widespread acceptance of the scientific method.


And consensus isn't science, so 97% scientist consensus serves no purpose other than to bolster an argument weak on scientific principle.


jesus fucking christ on a kringle. you should stop hitting your head on things before you post.


Another forumite who can't argue the message, so attacks the messenger. Never posted on a forum where so many trolls exist.
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Re: 97% Scientist Consensus: global warming is man-made

Postby DCB » Fri May 17, 2013 4:32 pm

Sandi wrote:
Henry Vilas wrote:If it isn't the scientific method, then what process led the 97% to say that global warming is man-made? Scientists base their conclusions on the scientific method, don't they?


Yes sometimes, but they also base conclusions on...

Scientific method.

Get more grants.

Money.

Fame.

....

do you have any evidence of this? or is this just another meaningless opinion?

Be sure to use the scientific method to back up your statements.
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