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Recognizing the notion of "other"

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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby Detritus » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:13 am

Mad Howler wrote:1) I came across something that was uncomfortable.
2) It was NOT all about sister Elliot. It was what mostly what De Vega had to say, thanks PJ for commenting on this.
3) What struck me about the bit with Sister Elliot was that it reminded me that the catholic church of my past had a stern interest in social justice, as nun'y as it might be.
4) I often relate things I find painful here in a vague way with the hope hope others will pick it up. The results of this approach to the hive have been mixed. I think I should re-work this approach.

See, now if you had given us points 2 & 3 above, then we would have a sense of what you found interesting about the link, and why we might want to look at it. Points 1 and 4 in the summary above go to situation and motive, which might or might not be important for us to decide to follow the link.

The main problem I have with your posts is the many unclear referents. A post that contains a link you find interesting with no explanation beyond "lookit this, guys!" is one example. Another is your tendency to say things like "If this bothers you..." without it being clear what "this" points to. Using the construction "if this [whatever it is] bothers you...", like "if this attitude toward the poor bothers you...," may be the only way we have of knowing what you're talking about. This is especially true in a forum discussion, where the referent may have been established in your mind by some other poster some ways back--but we can't read your mind. We can only read your posts.
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby SidSeven » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:13 am

Well, zenophobia appears to be alive and well...
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby Mad Howler » Tue May 14, 2013 2:45 am

As certain as the evidence here suggests that this "notion" is uncomfortable.

Reality persists ... for certain:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/soledad-o ... le/2529512
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby Mad Howler » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:57 pm

Shake it up Dr./Rev. Alex Gee
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/c ... 4424c.html

Shake it until the bottled & 'unseen',
fizzes all over us.

No pain, no gain.
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby gargantua » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:02 pm

That was a great article. It pained me to read it, but that is what it was supposed to do. I contrast that with an encounter I had with local law enforcement over a decade ago. I completely and unambiguously broke a law. I got a ride home. The officer turned off his lights so our neighbors would not see. I was in the wrong and I learned my lesson.

And the next morning I said, you know what, that was "driving while white". Can you imagine an African American person being treated that way? I couldn't, even before reading this article. It's sick. We've got to change.
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby Francis Di Domizio » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:36 am

Mad Howler wrote:Shake it up Dr./Rev. Alex Gee
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/c ... 4424c.html

Shake it until the bottled & 'unseen',
fizzes all over us.

No pain, no gain.


Incredibly powerful words. Possibly the best article I've read all year. Will they make a difference though?

Having lived in both Milwaukee and Madison, I've always thought the only real difference as far as racial disparities is that Milwaukee knows it's problem but doesn't care while Madison doesn't care to know it's problem.
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby Mad Howler » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:48 am

Francis Di Domizio wrote:
Mad Howler wrote:Shake it up Dr./Rev. Alex Gee
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/c ... 4424c.html

Shake it until the bottled & 'unseen',
fizzes all over us.

No pain, no gain.


Incredibly powerful words. Possibly the best article I've read all year. Will they make a difference though?

Having lived in both Milwaukee and Madison, I've always thought the only real difference as far as racial disparities is that Milwaukee knows it's problem but doesn't care while Madison doesn't care to know it's problem.


Dr./Rev. Alex Gee's words were indeed powerful,
Let me reiterate-

Our doubts are traitors,
And make us lose the good we oft might win
By fearing to attempt.
-William Shakespeare, "Measure for Measure", Act 1 scene 4


Let us remember,
Words have power.
Let us understand what we give up,
When we fail to find them.
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Re: Recognizing the notion of "other"

Postby Mad Howler » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:00 pm

In our own number of years we will all have passed through this experience.
Let us hope,
That we seek good in our given moments.
I am finding this an interesting notion to ponder over.
Re: MSNBC evening hosts
by David Blaska » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:46 pm

And black enemies, too. Wagstaff, if they're as stupid as you. Now answer my question:

At least one Madison public middle school (O'Keefe) bans do-rags and visible underwear. The O'Keefe handbook finds "a close relationship between student attire and student attitudes toward school." No different from my days at Sun Prairie High. We had a dress code, too.

Direct question: You find yourself on the Madison school board: would you rescind that ban or let it stand?
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