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Katy Perry

Postby christopher_robin » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:25 pm

Dig, I mostly listen to music that's old, really old, like 20-30, or 50-60, or 300 years ago. But I'm also a fan of modern music. This is going to sound a bit mad, but I mostly want to post this for the record--let's see what's what in two years.

The second major Katy Perry single is also seriously stupendous:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X75mry1LcFg

Production and some writing by Max Martin, I think. Classic chord progression but done up in kind of an updated Human League style.

Incredibly apt drum programming. At least two memorable
lyrics-as-tshirt slogans. Pop, but also dance music a la Madonna, and thematic in a way that is usually something you see with U2 or Eminem--very self-consciously defining an iconic image through lyrics and style. Heavy re-utilization of pinup doll imagery from the 40s towards this end.

She writes a lot of her music, which is key towards the critical goal of owning her brand, which she seems to easily grasp.

Keep an eye on this one, I think she is perfectly capable of suddenly punking out or going metal or even country (P!ink has very recently made these kinds of permutations seem safe inside the industry) and she also has that type A personality that Reese Witherspoon has rode to top flight status. I don't see anything stopping her. She's already at the top.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Bunny Chow » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:04 am

I like the slutty jilted brides on bikes sequence. Gives me a great idea for the next critical mass ride.

Katy came around last August for the Warped Tour. She went from being just fill-in act to becoming the main act in less than half a summer.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Kenneth Burns » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:31 am

It's okay, a slightly dull list song.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:06 pm

Bunny Chow wrote:I like the slutty jilted brides on bikes sequence. Gives me a great idea for the next critical mass ride.

Rock Hopper could be the one in drag.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Bunny Chow » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:08 pm

Katy Perry kinda reminds me of Shirley Manson
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby TheBookPolice » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:54 pm

Loathe.

Mom told me not to say anything if I couldn't say anything nice, but I couldn't keep one word from slipping out.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby ShaneDog » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:13 am

Needs moar Auto Tune! Barf!
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby christopher_robin » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:57 am

ShaneDog wrote:Needs moar Auto Tune! Barf!


Hawr!

So, I was getting a haircut and they have the new "hip-hop" station on, 93 something, and first of all it's not recognizably hip-hop at all, but secondly EVERY SINGLE SONG is maxing that cranked-up autotuner maneuver, from Akon to T-Pain, whom I understand we have to thank for this mercilessly ubiquitous stupid production trick.

Then, I get back into my ride, and WORT is playing a topical riddims number with...you guessed it, heavy autotuner on the vox. WTF?

(The Perry cuts use this trick sort of tastefully, if that's possible, usually with a vocoder mix and on the back-ups).
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Kenneth Burns » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:17 am

christopher_robin wrote:heavy autotuner on the vox. WTF?


Cuts across all genres. Listen to a country station and you'll hear. This technology is the death of singing.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Shipley » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:49 am

I really liked T-pain's autotune hook on "The Good Life" by Kanye West

Its essentially doing for singers what protools has been doing for musicians for years.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby juanton » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:57 am

Shipley wrote: what protools has been doing for musicians for years.


What does protools do?
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Kyle Motor » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:59 am

juanton wrote:
Shipley wrote: what protools has been doing for musicians for years.


What does protools do?

Don't blame the tool, blame the "pro"......who could also be a tool. Is this too easy?
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby christopher_robin » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:20 am

Shipley, <juanton> asks the correct question. My post wasn't about digitally altering vocals to making sure they are on pitch, which is also very old hat by the way, but something else entirely, which is maxing out the autotuner to get a certain effect ("robot voice, robot voice, all the kids love the robot voice" - Blizzy B).

This really has nothing to do with ProTools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysYntEcyxsI
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby juanton » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:29 am

Kyle Motor wrote:
juanton wrote:
Shipley wrote: what protools has been doing for musicians for years.


What does protools do?

Don't blame the tool, blame the "pro"......who could also be a tool. Is this too easy?


We have a winner. It's as if Digidesign fails to see the irony in their product name.
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Re: Katy Perry

Postby Marvell » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:10 pm

juanton wrote:
Kyle Motor wrote:Don't blame the tool, blame the "pro"......who could also be a tool. Is this too easy?


We have a winner. It's as if Digidesign fails to see the irony in their product name.


Hence the chorus of the song I wrote this summer:

...And now you know just why I wince
Every time I see you with that fool
You could be the Queen of the Universe
He's just another Pro Tool...


- "ProTool," G Funkus Maximus
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