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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:38 pm

Stop following up on stories. It makes Ned look bad.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby Ned Flanders » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:59 pm

Klimate Kook Komes Klean:

Jones Says Climate Change Data Not Well Organized, BBC Reports

Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Phil Jones, the professor at the center of a scandal over hacked e-mails on climate change, said his data wasn’t well organized and the period since 1995 hasn’t seen statistically significant global warming, British Broadcasting Corp. reported.

Jones, who stepped aside as head of the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in the U.K. pending an inquiry, said lack of organization contributed to his refusal to share data with climate-change skeptics, according to a transcript of his interview with the BBC.

Jones also said scientists hadn’t yet settled the debate over whether global temperatures in medieval times were warmer than recently, the BBC said. Jones stood by the view that global warming was most likely predominantly man-made
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... 5rgistbGa0
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby ilikebeans » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:46 pm

So Ned, now you trust a climate change scientist's statements? It's all part of his religion, you know.

When can we expect your independent analysis results? I'm waiting on the truth!
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby DCB » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:25 pm

Ned Flanders wrote: Jones stood by the view that global warming was most likely predominantly man-made


Ned, its nice to see that you've joined the reality-based community!
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby Ned Flanders » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:18 am

Oh boy. The wheels are starting to come off now:

Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels

Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.

The study, published in 2009 in Nature Geoscience, one of the top journals in its field, confirmed the conclusions of the 2007 report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It used data over the last 22,000 years to predict that sea level would rise by between 7cm and 82cm by the end of the century.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... ct-siddall
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby rabble » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:34 am

Ned Flanders wrote:Oh boy. The wheels are starting to come off now

That "wheels coming off" must be one of the approved sound bytes.

You did read the part where they're going to go over the two details in question and then determine if they over or UNDER estimated the rise in sea level, right?

Are you planning your response if it turns out to be an underestimate? Got all your wheels on tight?
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby DCB » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:41 am

Ned Flanders wrote:Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... ct-siddall

The scientists admitted to and fully explained their own mistakes. Would that other areas of human enterprise were so forthcoming.

Of course, nobody seriously doubts that sea levels will rise if global temperatures keep rising.

Guardian article wrote:Many scientists criticised the IPCC approach as too conservative, and several papers since have suggested that sea level could rise more.

Siddall said that he did not know whether the retracted paper's estimate of sea level rise was an overestimate or an underestimate.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby DCB » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:30 pm

The UK has finished its investigation of the UAE Climate Research Unit:
"Insofar as the Committee was able to consider accusations of dishonesty against CRU, the Committee considers that there is no case to answer."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03 ... cnn_latest

The Science and Technology Committee today publishes its report on the disclosure of climate data from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia. The Committee calls for the climate science community to become more transparent by publishing raw data and detailed methodologies.

http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_ ... nquiry.cfm


The report, by Parliament's Science and Technology Committee, is HERE, and in their conclusions (look HERE) they're pretty clear: "The focus on Professor Jones and CRU has been largely misplaced."

"Within our limited inquiry and the evidence we took, the scientific reputation of Professor Jones and CRU remains intact. We have found no reason in this unfortunate episode to challenge the scientific consensus as expressed by Professor Beddington [Prof. John Beddington, Chief Scientific Adviser to the British government], that 'global warming is happening [and] that it is induced by human activity.'"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/scienceandsoci ... tists.html
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby Ned Flanders » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:53 pm

Fixt: Kangaroo Kourt Klears Klimate Kooks
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:57 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:Fixt: Kangaroo Kourt Klears Klimate Kooks

Ned only believes what he reads in right wing blogs.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby rabble » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:01 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:Fixt: Kangaroo Kourt Klears Klimate Kooks

And now the NYT has posted a complete retraction on its "leakgate" article and the original article has disappeared (although copies remain.)

Unfortunately, since the NYT has instituted its paywall, you have to shell out money to see it.

Kooky.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby DCB » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:41 pm

Penn State has finished its investigation:

http://live.psu.edu/story/47378
Penn State Professor Michael Mann has been cleared of any wrongdoing, according to a report of the investigation that was released today (July 1).

report wrote:Conclusion of the Investigatory Committee as to whether research misconduct occurred:

The Investigatory Committee, after careful review of all available evidence, determined
that there is no substance to the allegation against Dr. Michael E. Mann, Professor,
Department of Meteorology, The Pennsylvania State University.

More specifically, the Investigatory Committee determined that Dr. Michael E. Mann did
not engage in, nor did he participate in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously
deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing,
conducting, or reporting research, or other scholarly activities.

The decision of the Investigatory Committee was unanimous.


I'm looking forward to all the retractions in the editorial pages....
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby DCB » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:30 am

CRU scientists exonerated:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/scien ... l?_r=1&hpw

I know, boooring. But you'll be happy to know that the paper of record included a quote from crank/denier/not-really-a-scientists Myron Ebell.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby ArturoBandini » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:43 am

DCB wrote:CRU scientists exonerated:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/scien ... l?_r=1&hpw

From the end of the article:
Dr. Pielke said. “This recent controversy has opened the eyes of a lot of people to a much richer tapestry of views on climate policy that are out there, which I think is a good thing.”

Ugh, "richer tapestry", really? I thought that phrase was relegated to "irony only" status nowadays. Some committee should definitely reprimand him for that.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Kaught

Postby Ned Flanders » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:53 pm

Now that much of Europe and good parts of the good 'ol USA are in teh midst of yet another snowy, cold winter, I present a blast from the past :lol: :

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past

By Charles Onians
Monday, 20 March 2000


Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives( :P )

more....

According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said. :mrgreen:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 24017.html
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