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Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

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Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:04 am

When elected, Walker said his number one priority was to help create a quarter million new jobs in Wisconsin. Even though he claimed our state had a budget crisis, he immediately pushed through special tax breaks of over a hundred million dollars for corporations, saying that would help create jobs. So where are they?

Wisconsin loses 12,500 private-sector jobs in July
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Michael Patrick » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:10 am

It's pretty simple - when the jobs numbers go up, it is because Walker's policies are working. If they go down, Wisconsin is a victim of Obama's terrible economy.

Get with the program, Mr. Vilas...
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby O.J. » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:23 am

Quite clearly, the recall commercials that aired in August were the main reason for the job losses in July. Duh!
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Michael Patrick » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:37 am

O.J. wrote:Quite clearly, the recall commercials that aired in August were the main reason for the job losses in July. Duh!


Holy shit, they went there...

WMC Comments on Wisconsin Employment Figures
Uncertainty Hampers Job Creation

MADISON -- Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce President/CEO Kurt R. Bauer commented Thursday regarding the loss of 12,000 private sector jobs in July.

"It doesn't surprise me that employers didn't hire or even scaled back in July in the heat of the recall campaigns, which caused so much uncertainty in the marketplace. That uncertainty wasn't the only factor in hiring decisions, but it clearly didn't help matters. We need to restore civility and stability in our government in Wisconsin. The good news is that overall, Wisconsin has created thousands of new jobs during the course of this year. And, our family-supporting manufacturing sector is coming back. It's time for the Legislature to get back to work at job creation."


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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby wack wack » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:38 am

Last month Walker was quite happy to claim that he and Wisconsin had gained nearly 50% of all jobs in the country.

I wonder if he's going to announce what percentage of national jobs he lost this month.

Bet not.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby other i » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:42 am

Why limit it to recall elections? Maybe they should argue that ANY election injects economic uncertainty. All bad economic results from this point forward should be clearly pinned on the existence of that nasty annoyance known as democracy.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby wack wack » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:02 am

I wish somebody would stand up and tell the truth that no one seems to acknowledge: if your business is truly paralyzed by "uncertainty," and you're not just using it as an excuse, then it's probably not a solid business, and you're not the successful business person you think you are.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby snoqueen » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:54 am

When jobs are lost on the national level, it's Obama's fault.

When jobs are lost in Wisconsin, it's not Walker's fault.

Something doesn't add up here, but what?
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby ArturoBandini » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:30 pm

wack wack wrote:I wish somebody would stand up and tell the truth that no one seems to acknowledge: if your business is truly paralyzed by "uncertainty," and you're not just using it as an excuse, then it's probably not a solid business, and you're not the successful business person you think you are.

Right, only stupid business owners hedge against uncertainty when making planning decisions. :roll:
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby dave esmond » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:50 pm

ArturoBandini wrote:Right, only stupid business owners hedge against uncertainty when making planning decisions. :roll:


if those uncertainties are caused by...

"It doesn't surprise me that employers didn't hire or even scaled back in July in the heat of the recall campaigns, which caused so much uncertainty in the marketplace."

They're not stupid. They're pussies on the brink of failure.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby ArturoBandini » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:56 pm

dave esmond wrote:
ArturoBandini wrote:Right, only stupid business owners hedge against uncertainty when making planning decisions. :roll:


if those uncertainties are caused by...

"It doesn't surprise me that employers didn't hire or even scaled back in July in the heat of the recall campaigns, which caused so much uncertainty in the marketplace."

They're not stupid. They're pussies on the brink of failure.

Fair enough. I suppose we can blame them for trying to disguise their true motivation, but in the scenario where the businesses are actually on the brink of failure (your scenario) we can't blame them for not hiring new unnecessary employees, and thus avoiding the failure of their business.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby dave esmond » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:01 pm

ArturoBandini wrote:I suppose we can blame them for trying to disguise their true motivation, but in the scenario where the businesses are actually on the brink of failure (your scenario) we can't blame them for not hiring new unnecessary employees, and thus avoiding the failure of their business.


True.

Just be honest enough to admit you're failing. Not that you're all scared of the uncertainty.

Is there ever a time that business isn't uncertain? And if you can't handle that reality should you really be running a business? You gotta stay on your toes and be able to react quickly if you want to run a successful business. If you're waiting for certainty you've picked the wrong career.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Donald » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:07 pm

WMC appears to have adopted the reasoning, philosophy and actions of the Chinese government. The argument the upper levels of the Chinese government make is that further moves toward democracy would create uncertainty, divert attention from economic development and result in decreased economic growth.

A one-party state with limited ability of the population to intervene in government decisionmaking assures that decisions can be made quickly with limited internal checks and balances, and with limited public knowledge. WMC ought to move to China.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:57 pm

Wisconsin loses 800 private-sector jobs; unemployment rises

Again I ask: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

The Wisconsin Legislature is only meeting for one day this month and job creation is not on the agenda. But why should they worry. They already have jobs.
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Re: Walker, where are those jobs you promised?

Postby juanton » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:05 pm

Too busy with the recalls.
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