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Senate slows mining bill

Postby snoqueen » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:25 am

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/ ... 963f4.html

With senators already recalled, a one-vote margin, and more senators under the gun, the state senate is actually planning to hold hearings, listen to constituents, and consider amendments to the industry-written mining bill. At least that's what Sen. Neal Kedzie, R-Elkhorn, chairman of the Senate Select Sen. Neal Kedzie, R-Elkhorn, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Mining Jobs, says.

The Assembly bill was entirely the work of Republican legislators; a substitute bill put forth by Democrats on Thursday with several amendments was voted down. At least two Democratic representatives said they were not even provided copies of the bill.

But Kedzie said he has to work with Democrats in the Senate because of the slim one-vote majority Republicans hold in that house. Some are already suggesting that, due to moderate Republicans in the Senate, a mining bill may have a tough time passing there.


If the senate recalls do nothing else but get this bill modified to protect the environment and give up-north localities their share of any mine profits, they will have been worth it. While I think we could help the north part of the state to prosperity better by working with, not against, environmental concerns and interests, this is at last a start.

And it will be terrific to see the senate in actual democratic processes, discussion, debate, listening, and outreach to communities near the proposed site. It's a step back towards the way Wisconsin citizens expect their government to behave.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby gargantua » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:44 am

Yes, if he's serious, it would be terrific. They'd only be doing it because, due to the successful recalls, they have no choice. With just a 17-16 voting margin, Dale Schultz has become one of the most powerful legislators in the state.

Besides, having worked in state government for many years, I've noticed that the Assembly versions of bills tend to be more extreme, and the Senate acted as a check on the more extreme tendencies. The only time in memory in which that wasn't true was in Walker's first year when the GOP had a 19-14 majority and felt that they didn't have to listen to anyone. Except their large donors that is.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:54 pm

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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby Henry Vilas » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:29 am

Senate passes new wetland protocols in early morning session

Senate Republicans approved a bill that would loosen restrictions on wetland development in an ugly early morning session Wednesday that underscored the animosity that has permeated the state Capitol in the year since Gov. Scott Walker stripped public workers of nearly all their union rights.

The wetlands bill has become a hot-button issue. The GOP sees it as a way to help businesses expand and create jobs. Minority Democrats and their conservationist allies fear the measure would pressure environmental regulators to lower their standards for granting permits, leading to the loss of potentially thousands of acres of wetlands.

Debate on the measure started Tuesday afternoon, but minority Democrats used a procedural move to delay the vote until the next time the body convened. Infuriated, Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, forced the body to return to the floor at 12:01 Wednesday morning to vote.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby snoqueen » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:57 am

Calling it an early morning session is a nicety.

It was passed in the dark of the night.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby minicat » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:13 pm

Has this state ever seen a more corrupt bunch of sleazeballs in charge? I don't understand how the polls for recall aren't about 90-10 in favor of kicking these jerks out ASAP.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:06 am

The latest twist: Assembly mining bill gets sudden GOP support in Senate

In hope of pushing through controversial mining legislation, the Senate's top leader on Wednesday disbanded a special committee on the issue, but the move could instead prevent a bill from passing before the legislative session ends March 15.

The decision by Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) to support the Assembly version of the measure comes amid a second round of recall elections that could result in Republicans losing their majority in the Senate.

The Assembly bill weakens existing mining regulations, but supporters believe it provides adequate environmental protections and would spur development of a massive open pit iron ore mine in northern Wisconsin.


The political maneuvering continues.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby gargantua » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:19 pm

I hope Dale Schultz has the stomach for a few more no votes and tell Fitzgerald to slow his roll.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby LastWord » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:25 am

Now the Mining bill hearing is canceled in Platteville; home of the first School of Mines. Maybe the GOP thinks the M painted on the rock face stands for MONEY.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:27 am

gargantua wrote:I hope Dale Schultz has the stomach for a few more no votes and tell Fitzgerald to slow his roll.

It looks like he has.

GOP Senator Says He Can't Support Version Of Mining Bill
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby DCB » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:41 am

Henry Vilas wrote:
gargantua wrote:I hope Dale Schultz has the stomach for a few more no votes and tell Fitzgerald to slow his roll.

It looks like he has.

GOP Senator Says He Can't Support Version Of Mining Bill

Sen. Kedzie can't be too happy about it either. He was obliquely showing reservations before his committee took it up. Now Fitzgerald has shut down his committee.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby snoqueen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:04 am

One of the threats they hold (or held) over the heads of balky Republican senators was to redistrict them unfavorably. Another was to run a Tea Party candidate against them. What were some other threats?

How long will the senators put up with this? It only takes one or two courageous ones (like Schultz) to stand up and say they've had it. In some districts their support is pretty thin to begin with, if you look at the recall signatures accumulated.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby fisticuffs » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:32 am

Looks like those two Republican Senators who already lost their sets in a recall ended up being pretty important.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby ilikebeans » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:42 am

snoqueen wrote:What were some other threats?

There's always this maneuver, from the article above:

Schultz said within 30 minutes of the first Senate bill being scrapped, robo-calls were made by the conservative Wisconsin Club for Growth to his district, attacking him for not supporting the Assembly bill.
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Re: Senate slows mining bill

Postby Henry Vilas » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:52 pm

Schultz is still standing tall.

Republican state Sen. Dale Schultz and Democratic Sen. Bob Jauch are drafting a substitute bill and plan to hold a listening session on it in Platteville on Saturday. The meeting will take place from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the University of Wisconsin-Platteville Student Center.

Meanwhile, Fitzgerald said that they will review it and discuss what's next.

Republicans hold only a one-vote majority in the Senate, but Schultz, a moderate Republican who sat on the mining committee, has said he won't vote for the Assembly measure.


I wonder what the next move will be from petty tyrant Scott Fitzgerald.
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