wack wack wrote: Your minimization of the negative nature of the "joke" borders on sociopathy
the bar has been raised. A sick joke is now "sociopathy". I didn't make or appreciate this sick joke, but my tolerance on of it is entering sociopathic territory.
Every comedian from Lenny Bruce to George Carlin to Wanda Sykes to Sarah Silverman to Jimmy Kimmell to Lisa Lampanelli to Howard Stern to Bill Maher are now sociopaths.
The politically correct - and I include Henry Vilas, SnoQueen and wack-wack in the absolute pantheon of doctrinaire correctness - respond to upsetting remarks with demonizing name calling. A joke with a woman character in it is "mysogneny." Snoqueen dismisses me in anger, and Vilas calls me a troll for my sarcastic comeback.
A dirty, offensive joke about beastiality and somebody mother is hate speech.
This sort of labeling is striking back in anger because somebody's joke offends you. Nothing wrong with being offended, but your feelings don't necessarily make another person mean or hateful or "sociopathic."
I like Ann Coulter and Bill Maher and Howard Stern's offensive humor, at least half the time, anyway. I am willing to tolerate the other half of the time.
I have my personal standards of when a joke crosses a line: when it is intended to make some person or group of people feel bad about themselves. I don't care if makes a million people feel sour in the stomach because the joke is icky or crude.
There is a lot of subtlety to what I'm saying. Depending on who is saying a joke, and in what context, I might be OK with an ethnic joke. Yet a joke that demeans poor people, or people with eating disorders, in a way that would make such a person feel badly about themselves, that would be crossing my line.