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The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby rabble » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:44 am

Igor wrote:I am curious - who do you think kills more kids with candy - Cops, gunslingers, or crooks?

I am curious also.

Why do you think that's a pertinent question for this subject?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby Igor » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:36 am

rabble wrote:
Igor wrote:I am curious - who do you think kills more kids with candy - Cops, gunslingers, or crooks?

I am curious also.

Why do you think that's a pertinent question for this subject?


It is not a pertinent question for the Trayvon Martin case. It was only pertinent as related to your comment about putting the fear of the Lord into cops and gunslingers. In my neighborhood at least, I am a lot more likely to run into a crook with a gun than a trigger happy cop or trigger happy gun owner.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby rabble » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:48 am

Igor wrote:It is not a pertinent question for the Trayvon Martin case. It was only pertinent as related to your comment about putting the fear of the Lord into cops and gunslingers. In my neighborhood at least, I am a lot more likely to run into a crook with a gun than a trigger happy cop or trigger happy gun owner.

Your neighborhood crooks shoot unarmed strangers and then claim Stand Your Ground and then the cops let them go?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:50 am

Didn't Travon have the right to stand his ground? He was being tracked down by a man he didn't know in a truck and then by foot. If he felt threatened he would have been within his rights in FL to shoot him had he had a gun. You think the cops would have taken 6 weeks to charge him with anything?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby snoqueen » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:04 am

Not to derail this discussion, but Trayvon's mother sounds like the nicest, most balanced person in the whole country right now:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/tra ... 12394.html

I'm not saying I agree with her: when you carry a gun around and then use it to shoot someone to me it's not an "accident." But I'm not part of the story, and she is. She's setting a great example of compassion here.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby Ned Flanders » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:16 am

rabble wrote:Second degree murder charges.

I'm satisfied. They almost got it swept under the rug but it's out.

Maybe this will put a little fear of the lord into a few cops and gunslingers.

Prosecution and indictment by mob. Fantastic.

So what does the mob do when the trial and sentencing doesn't go their way? Who'll be held responsible for the death and destruction? Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, The New Black Panther Party, NBC?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:18 am

Prosecution and indictment by mob.


Actually it's prosecution and indictment by a jury. Which is all the "mob" was demanding. Do you think this shouldn't go to court?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby snoqueen » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:18 am

Trayvon's mom thinks it should go to court so Zimmerman is held accountable (gets his day in court) and she's willing to live with whatever the verdict is.

I think this shows some high-level thinking with acceptance of gray areas and imperfection along with respect for the legal process. Most importantly, she's not talking about any kind of revenge. What an incredible example for this woman to set.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby Remember_Me » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:21 pm

She has since retracted her "accident" comment.

Now says, ‘George Zimmerman stalked my son and murdered him in cold blood’.

So which is it?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby rabble » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:27 pm

I suppose it might be a parent who hasn't quite recovered from having a child shot to death on the street.

Marvel, I don't care if you come up with a nice logical reason for it. Please don't call me obtuse again. It would make me morose.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby Remember_Me » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:33 pm

rabble wrote:I suppose it might be a parent who hasn't quite recovered from having a child shot to death on the street.


:roll:

Give it a rest blowhard.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby Ned Flanders » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:35 pm

I think we need to have Oprah get to the bottom of this.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:46 pm

We've heard from two of the Zimmerman apologist crowd, but where is Dangerousman? Must be in hiding (but very well armed, as he is no soft target like Martin was).
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby rabble » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:21 am

Remember_Me wrote:
rabble wrote:I suppose it might be a parent who hasn't quite recovered from having a child shot to death on the street.


:roll:

Give it a rest blowhard.

Having trouble with the concept? Personally I don't think we should be putting a whole lot of thought into what either family does or says right now. None of them are thinking clearly and won't be for some time after this is over.

Hell, all I had was a divorce and I look back on that year and wonder what the hell I was thinking half the time. And I saw it coming. I can't imagine losing a family member suddenly or having one subjected to the kind of anger Zimmerman's getting.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman Story

Postby fisticuffs » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:27 am

If you're going to have the right to carry a gun, and use it without second guessing yourself in any situation shouldn't you also have to deal with the consequences if it turns out you reacted wrong? With the power afforded by these laws there should be an equal amount of responsibility when you mess up. I say go for it. Carry your gun, protect yourself without question but if it ends up you made a huge mistake with that gun live with the consequences and go to jail a killer.
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