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Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more votes"

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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:25 pm

Henry Vilas wrote:The push to destroy unions gives all the power to corporate interests.

Who can count the number of logical fallacies in this statement?
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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:42 pm

fisticuffs wrote:McCain-Feingold placed restrictions on money.

Keep going, you're getting there. Restrictions on whose money? used for what? during what period of time?
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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:21 pm

Meade ignored part of the TR quote, so I'll underline it for him:
It is necessary that laws should be passed to prohibit the use of corporate funds directly or indirectly for political purposes; it is still more necessary that such laws should be thoroughly enforced.

So Meade, do you agree or disagree with Teddy?
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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby jman111 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:53 pm

Larry, once again, displays his affinity for ignoring questions asked of him and demanding answers to the questions he prefers.
Meade wrote:The question should be this:

When he doesn't get the answers he wants, he wants to jump to unfounded conclusions.
Meade wrote:May I assume then, by your failure to answer my question...
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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby Meade » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:17 pm

3 things, jman111:
1. The guy who calls himself Henry Vilas deliberately derailed this thread from its original topic. Do you care? I doubt it.
2. I have no "affinity" for ignoring questions asked of me. You are just making that up.
3. I didn't "jump to unfounded conclusions". I politely asked if I could make an assumption based on HV's non-answer to my question. He still hasn't answered either question. That's fine. I make no demands.

Now, as to the original topic of this post -- Larry Kaufmann pretty much said the same thing here: http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=36982 that Cieslewicz repeats in the Citizen Dave post, linked above.
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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby jman111 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:33 pm

1- Looks to me like Mr Vilas was responding to your post (in response to pj). So, who derailed the thread?
2- Your history here seems to indicate otherwise.
3- Never said you did. Said you wanted to. Why would you make such an assumption (and not one to the contrary)?

Hey, just a couple of observations. But it looks like I hit a nerve.
Didn't mean to upset ya, Larry.
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Re: Cieslewicz: "My party lost because other guy got more vo

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:45 pm

I said I agreed with TR and Justice Stevens that corporations should stay out of elections (having no rights in that area) and then Meade asks me about Free Speech for corporations in electoral matters. I guess his mind works a little slow.
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