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Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby Meade » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:51 pm

Your beliefs become your thoughts,
Your thoughts become your words,
Your words become your actions,
Your actions become your habits,
Your habits become your values,
Your values become your destiny."
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby rabble » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:11 pm

But your bullshit is just bullshit. :-)
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby pjbogart » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:22 pm

Heh. "Your beliefs become your thoughts." First you believe in something, then you think about it.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby scratch » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:57 pm

Meade wrote:Sorry, I have a policy of not responding to requests and demands from liars.


So you're saying you can't respond to your own requests and demands? Makes as much sense as anything you post.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:09 pm

Meade refuses to state where he stands on abortion and the law. He will try to question everyone else's stand but won't talk about his own.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:11 pm

Meade refuses to state where he stands on abortion and the law. He will try to question everyone else's stand but won't talk about his own.


That's because he's a coward. I'm not sure why people continue to engage him.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby Zoti Bemba » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:17 pm

Which comes first, the value or the belief?
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby pjbogart » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:37 pm

Zoti Bemba wrote:Which comes first, the value or the belief?


I don't know, but if we follow Meade's template, perhaps we'll find out.

Meade wrote:Your beliefs become your thoughts,
Your thoughts become your words,
Your words become your actions,
Your actions become your habits,
Your habits become your values,
Your values become your destiny


First you believe in unicorns and then you spend some time thinking about unicorns. Eventually you put your thoughts into words and start telling other people about unicorns. The next step is to act on your belief in unicorns, say by building unicorn shrines and perhaps killing people who don't believe in unicorns. Your actions become habits and you create thousands of unicorn shrines all while killing millions of people for not believing in unicorns. This defines your values... worshiping unicorns and killing anyone who doesn't.

Which brings you to your destiny: being a violent, mindless fool all because you believed in something before you put any thought into it.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby Ducatista » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:12 pm

I'm pro unicorn and I vote!
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby ilikebeans » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:15 pm

pjbogart wrote:First you believe in unicorns..

Out of curiosity, did you know about this parody before you typed that?

The logo is awesome, and I want it in a hood ornament.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby pjbogart » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:38 pm

No, but I'm aware of the flying spaghetti monster. I just used unicorns because they're a common mythical creature... and I watched "Legend" a few nights ago.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby Meade » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:39 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
Meade refuses to state where he stands on abortion and the law. He will try to question everyone else's stand but won't talk about his own.


That's because he's a coward. I'm not sure why people continue to engage him.


Now why do you say that, fisticuffs? You don't even know me. How can you pass such a judgement?

Mahatma Gandhi's and Wendell Berry's positions on abortion, sex, and marriage come closest to my own.
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby snoqueen » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:50 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
Meade refuses to state where he stands on abortion and the law. He will try to question everyone else's stand but won't talk about his own.


That's because he's a coward. I'm not sure why people continue to engage him.


I know, and I did it this morning. This has gotta stop, but he's such an easy target.

...continuing to take personal inventory, and when I am wrong promptly admitting it...

(from #10 of the twelve steps of not-engaging-trolls-anonymous)
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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby johnfajardohenry » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:17 pm

Prof. Wagstaff wrote:Interesting that you set "competent" as a benchmark and then proceed to describe scenarios whereby people hack off their own limbs, either for pleasure or to eat. Do those actions sound like something a "competent" person would do or would you interpret them (as any medical professional would) as indicators of mental disease?


By competent I meant the proverbial "Able to go outdoors without a keeper." That is they can cook a meal, go to school, hold a job drive a car, manage a bank account and generally live a life that is within the broad range of normal.

As opposed to someone who cannot carry out normal daily life activities without assistance.

I would agree that most of us would say that they are batcrap crazy. But that is a cultural, not a medical, diagnosis. I see stuff every day that I think is crazy. I am sure you do as well.

Most everyone in the world is nuts to some degree except you and me. And I'm not so certain about you. :)

Might that be an indicator of a mental disease? Perhaps.

That is a pretty big indicator, though and prone to all sorts of misuse. There are people going around saying in all seriousness that people who don't accept global warming are mentally ill and should be rounded up and somehow "treated". Ex VP Al Gore was one who comes to mind.

It doesn't change the question, which nobody has answered:

Should men have the absolute right to do what they want with their bodies? Including excision of lumps of tissue for no medical reason other than they want to.

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Re: Question for supporters of constitutional abortion ban

Postby Prof. Wagstaff » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:47 pm

I love how I note the opinions of "medical professionals" and you counter with the opinions of "people like" Al Gore. I like much less your disturbing conflation of mental disease with "stuff I think is crazy". That's pretty insulting to those who have to live with brain disorders. Regardless, if Al Gore said that global warming denialism was a sign of mental disease (citation, please?) then he's flat-out wrong.
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