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Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:41 pm

How much do you really know about him?

More importantly, how much do you dare to learn?
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Re: Obama

Postby bdog » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:08 pm

He seems like a very nice man.
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Re: Obama

Postby Sandi » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:15 pm

How much do you really know about him?


That he spends too much.
That he wants to raise taxes on the upper and middle class.
That he wants the government to take over 1/6th of the economy.
That he stifles jobs with more and more regulations on business.
That he thinks got contribution is greater than business (You didn't build that).
That he runs negative ads because he can't run on his record.

Could go on and on, what else does one need to know?
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Re: Obama

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:28 pm

Sandi wrote:That he wants to raise taxes on the upper and middle class.

Bulllshit. Obama just proposed that the taxes for the top earners go back to what they were before the temporary tax breaks were enacted. He would keep them for the middle class.
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Re: Obama

Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:52 pm

Not bullshit. "back to what they were" is a tax raise, genius.

"Keep them the same for the middle class". Middle class of where? Kenya?
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Re: Obama

Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:55 pm

Sandi wrote:Could go on and on, what else does one need to know?

You pretty much have it. Do you know why he sent the gift bust of Churchill that was in the Oval Office back to Great Britain?
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Re: Obama

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:56 pm

Meade wrote:Not bullshit. "back to what they were" is a tax raise, genius.

"Keep them the same for the middle class". Middle class of where? Kenya?

Only those earning over $250,000 a year (adjusted gross) will pay a little more (like they did before) on the amount over one quarter million.
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Re: Obama

Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:02 pm

Oh, I see. "Pay a little more" is not bullshit, Mr. Bullshit Detective?
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Re: Obama

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:06 pm

Meade wrote:Oh, I see. "Pay a little more" is not bullshit, Mr. Bullshit Detective?

So do you think that those who claim over a quarter million dollars a year in taxable income (after often considerable "adjustments") are part of the middle class? That belief is bullshit.
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Re: Obama

Postby rabble » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:09 pm

Jeez yes, Meade. I know you enjoy pretending your household is middle class, but you ain't. And us middle class who are watching our real income decline year after year are getting a little tired of watching you elitist snobs do it.
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Re: Obama

Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:15 pm

rabble, is your poor economic condition a result of my having a better economic condition? If you truly believe it is, email me and explain in detail how I benefited at your expense. Tell me exactly how much you feel I owe you. I'll write you check.

We'll skip the government middle man.
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Re: Obama

Postby jonnygothispen » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:46 pm

Over $250,000 is "middle class" to you Meade? Really? You guys are just nuts.
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Re: Obama

Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:52 pm

How much does Obama make?

My Marxist studies tell me "middle class" is anyone below the ruling class and above the proletariat. All I know is, I am well below ruling class.
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Re: Obama

Postby jonnygothispen » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:53 pm

Meade wrote:rabble, is your poor economic condition a result of my having a better economic condition? If you truly believe it is, email me and explain in detail how I benefited at your expense. Tell me exactly how much you feel I owe you. I'll write you check.

We'll skip the government middle man.
The economy has always operated the best when there's a strong low and middle class. Why? Because these people actually spend the money when they have it because they need things. This creates demand, and that creates more jobs and a broader tax base, which ultimately lowers your taxes and/or creates surpluses (remember the Clinton/Gore economy?).

When you redistribute all the wealth to the top by penalizing, or punishing the lower classes, you're ultimately ensuring that any recovery is slow, if at all.

So to answer your question, YES, when you steal from the low and middle class via a wage system and tax code that favors the top, YOU benefited at someone else's expense, Meade. NOT the reverse psychology the GOP and you regurgitate daily. You are what you accuse others of and apparently aren't even aware of it.
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Re: Obama

Postby Meade » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:00 pm

But here is the essential truth: Barack Obama will not be fully satisfied until the American middle class is reduced to the economic level of the Kenyan middle class. Barack Obama hates the American middle class. You think he loves you. He doesn't. He. hates. your. very. guts. He was brought up that way and he has not changed one iota.

Hates your middle class guts.
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