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Did Obama lie about people who died?

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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Comrade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:03 pm

Why was security so lacking in such a dangerous area on the eve of the anniversary of 9/11?

Anyone?
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Meade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:20 pm

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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Meade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:22 pm

Obama turned national security into a political issue - right when it was happening.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby pjbogart » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:22 pm

Meade wrote:
pjbogart wrote:The President doesn't sit around deciding how many security guards to have at each and every embassy, checkpoint, military base, etc.

Tell us what the president - President Obama, commander in chief, does sit around deciding, pj. Anything?

Does he sit around deciding whether to lead from the front or from the behind? Does he sit around deciding when the Islamist war of terror on America is over and when it is not? Is he just too busy with other things to make the small decisions about how or how not to protect our diplomats and foreign service people?


Well, he doesn't sit around deciding how to spend his wife's money, I'm pretty sure of that. He's a busy guy, Meade, something you have little appreciation for. He has, like, responsibilities! Not just stuff that he'd like to do, like trolling an internet messageboard, but stuff that he has to do.

For instance, President Obama probably gets up in the morning and has a cup of coffee over breakfast. Not a bowl of Lucky Charms that his wife was kind enough to buy for him, but something perhaps more substantial, to get him ready for a hard day's work. He probably meets with political advisers and perhaps his security team to brief him on anything that might have happened overnight, as opposed to Meade who decides whether he'll spend the day cutting brush, trolling the internet or perhaps go for a bike ride and see if he can't find someone playing a drum who seems kinda liberal.

These days it seems that Obama's days are largely filled with political events, because it's his responsibility to make sure that a colossal douche doesn't get to nominate the next two Supreme Court Justices. He gets on a plane, gives a speech in Des Moines, then gets back on a plane, gives a speech in Denver. He's probably finishing up his first speech before you get done counting the blue diamonds in your cereal and send your wife off to work, so she can buy you more Lucky Charms.

It's a long day, and Obama needs to be both the President and a candidate, so that all of us can live in a country which gives us pride. For those of us who don't have the luxury of sitting around waiting for our wives to bring home a paycheck, he's a pretty good guy. He's looking out for me.

And that's why I'm voting for him (again).
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Sandi » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:24 pm

Stebben84 wrote:FOR THE RECORD. Go to 8 seconds in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KcQNn5sE4

Now go to this:

Sandi wrote:There is no mention of "terrorist attack" (that was the words said to be in the transcript) are in the transcript.


Now go to this:

Meade wrote:No acts of terror


Meade's quote, not mine.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Why are you linking the debate? No one is contending any words spoken there, we all just watched it.

The contention is what was said in the Rose Garden transcripts here.

The word "terror" appears once, in a future context:

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.


The words attack/attacked appear about half a dozen times, but no reference to "act of terror" or "terror" alone in context to a terrorist attack. We all know that attack is a more general word than terrorist attack and they do not carry the same meaning.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby pjbogart » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:28 pm

Thank god we have moderates like Sandi to tell us all of the crazy shit that right-wing blowhards are saying.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Meade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:30 pm

Stebben84 wrote:FOR THE RECORD. Go to 8 seconds in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KcQNn5sE4

Now go to this:

Sandi wrote:There is no mention of "terrorist attack" (that was the words said to be in the transcript) are in the transcript.


Now go to this:

Meade wrote:No acts of terror


Meade's quote, not mine.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Stebben, exactly where, in Obama's Rose Garden statement, does he call the Benghazi attack "a terrorist attack"? That was his lie in the debate. Candy Crowley (moronically) backed him up - when he told Romney to "read the transcript" after Romney called Obama on his lie. Crowley completely aided Obama in slithering out of it. If you care about truth, you should be outraged.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Meade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:33 pm

Comrade wrote:Why was security so lacking in such a dangerous area on the eve of the anniversary of 9/11?

Anyone?


Because the Obama Doctrine says war is over, it's reelection time, people want to feel comfortable in their denial, we'll worry about national security later.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Meade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:47 pm

Candy Crowley acknowledges she got it wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=athcyCTn ... r_embedded
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby pjbogart » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:49 pm

Meade wrote:Tell us what the president - President Obama, commander in chief, does sit around deciding, pj. Anything?


Well, he doesn't sit around deciding how to spend his wife's money, I'm pretty sure of that. He's a busy guy, Meade, something you have little appreciation for. He has, like, responsibilities! Not just stuff that he'd like to do, like trolling an internet messageboard, but stuff that he has to do.

For instance, President Obama probably gets up in the morning and has a cup of coffee over breakfast. Not a bowl of Lucky Charms that his wife was kind enough to buy for him, but something perhaps more substantial, to get him ready for a hard day's work. He probably meets with political advisers and perhaps his security team to brief him on anything that might have happened overnight, as opposed to Meade who decides whether he'll spend the day cutting brush, trolling the internet or perhaps go for a bike ride and see if he can't find someone playing a drum who seems kinda liberal.

These days it seems that Obama's days are largely filled with political events, because it's his responsibility to make sure that a colossal douche doesn't get to nominate the next two Supreme Court Justices. He gets on a plane, gives a speech in Des Moines, then gets back on a plane, gives a speech in Denver. He's probably finishing up his first speech before you get done counting the blue diamonds in your cereal and send your wife off to work, so she can buy you more Lucky Charms.

It's a long day, and Obama needs to be both the President and a candidate, so that all of us can live in a country which gives us pride. For those of us who don't have the luxury of sitting around waiting for our wives to bring home a paycheck, he's a pretty good guy. He's looking out for me.

And that's why I'm voting for him (again).
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Sandi » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:52 pm

Meade wrote:
Comrade wrote:Why was security so lacking in such a dangerous area on the eve of the anniversary of 9/11?

Anyone?


Because the Obama Doctrine says war is over, it's reelection time, people want to feel comfortable in their denial, we'll worry about national security later.


The lack of security is tragic. Also bad, and I suppose tragic for trust in government was the coverup.

The administration knew what it was continued to call it a video protest, as the President did at the UN two weeks later. Yet the state department knew there was no video protest as this state dept website transcript of a briefing on Libya to select reporters shows:

Question from AP reporter Brad Klapper:

QUESTION: Hi, yes. You described several incidents you had with groups of men, armed men. What in all of these events that you’ve described led officials to believe for the first several days that this was prompted by protests against the video?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: That is a question that you would have to ask others. That was not our conclusion. I’m not saying that we had a conclusion, but we outlined what happened. The Ambassador walked guests out around 8:30 or so, there was no one on the street at approximately 9:40, then there was the noise and then we saw on the cameras the – a large number of armed men assaulting the compound.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Comrade » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:07 am

Sandi wrote:
Meade wrote:
Comrade wrote:Why was security so lacking in such a dangerous area on the eve of the anniversary of 9/11?

Anyone?


Because the Obama Doctrine says war is over, it's reelection time, people want to feel comfortable in their denial, we'll worry about national security later.


The lack of security is tragic. Also bad, and I suppose tragic for trust in government was the coverup.

The administration knew what it was continued to call it a video protest, as the President did at the UN two weeks later. Yet the state department knew there was no video protest as this state dept website transcript of a briefing on Libya to select reporters shows:

Question from AP reporter Brad Klapper:

QUESTION: Hi, yes. You described several incidents you had with groups of men, armed men. What in all of these events that you’ve described led officials to believe for the first several days that this was prompted by protests against the video?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: That is a question that you would have to ask others. That was not our conclusion. I’m not saying that we had a conclusion, but we outlined what happened. The Ambassador walked guests out around 8:30 or so, there was no one on the street at approximately 9:40, then there was the noise and then we saw on the cameras the – a large number of armed men assaulting the compound.


So, the administration was incompetent and the result of that was the death of our ambassador and three others? Lies about this have been going on for the last month?
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby Sandi » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:40 am

Comrade wrote:So, the administration was incompetent and the result of that was the death of our ambassador and three others? Lies about this have been going on for the last month?


I did not say the death of anyone was because of Administration incompetence, although it is a possibility. Nor do I know who, in particular was responsible.

All I am saying is that there was a coverup, and that is wrong for any administration.
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby scratch » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:34 am

Meade wrote:
Endo Rockstar wrote:Sleep well, shithead Dan Motor


Never at a loss for a clever comeback, eh Larry?
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Re: Obama lied about people who died

Postby wack wack » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:00 am

Sandi wrote:All I am saying is that there was a coverup, and that is wrong for any administration.


What exactly is the point of the cover-up?
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