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Klimate Kooks Korrekt

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby nutria » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:47 am

Ned Flanders wrote:
Ding ding ding.

Next.


So, we're in agreement --- facts don't matter to you? You asked for a link, it was provided, and your response is, and I quote, "Ding ding ding."

How about this --- save yourself the headache, and go wait for whatever Rush & Hannity's talking points are on this, instead of just making "Ding ding ding." noises.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:52 am

heckuva job, nedley!

Next.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:44 pm

I keep forgetting to post about this.
The United States is facing a year or more without crucial satellites that provide invaluable data for predicting storm tracks, a result of years of mismanagement, lack of financing and delays in launching replacements, according to several recent official reviews.


Experts have grown increasingly alarmed in the past two years because the existing polar satellites are nearing or beyond their life expectancies, and the launch of the next replacement, known as J.P.S.S.-1, has slipped to 2017, probably too late to avoid a coverage gap of at least a year.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:13 pm

Stebben84 wrote:
pjbogart wrote:I still think that pointing to individual weather events and blaming them on climate change is poor science


Agreed, but many have been pointing to the number of such storms and their severity. It's not just one isolated storm, but the fact that it adds to the list.

Here is one study from last year predicting an increase in severity:
The combined effects of storm climatology change and a 1 m SLR [sea-level rise] may cause the present NYC 100-yr surge flooding to occur every 3–20 yr and the present 500-yr flooding to occur every 25–240 yr by the end of the century.

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/ ... e1389.html

If you want more storms like Sandy, keep burning fossil fuels.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:29 am

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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:42 am

Climate change might be affecting our satellites.

Climate change from greenhouse gas emissions might threaten spacecraft as well as people, a scientists suggested on Sunday, providing direct evidence that carbon dioxide from human activity is affecting the outermost portion of the Earth's atmosphere.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby rabble » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:17 pm

We’re on pace for 4°C of global warming. Here’s why that terrifies the World Bank.
The World Bank just commissioned an analysis (pdf) by scientists at the Potsdam Institute looking at the consequences of a 4°C rise in global temperatures above pre-industrial levels by 2100. And the report seems to have unnerved many bank officials. “The latest predictions on climate change should shock us into action,” wrote World Bank President Jim Yong Kim in an op-ed after the report was released Monday.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:08 am

In the wake of an election where the pro-math party won decisive victories, how is the anti-science party reacting? Let's look at the The House Committee on Space, Science, and Technology:
In addition to Rohrabacher, the other Representatives that are vying to lead the Committee are Wisconsin's James Sensenbrenner and Texas' Lamar Smith. They all suggest that they will focus on topics like NASA's budget and the Department of Energy's plans for future energy tech. But all of them have been embroiled in the controversy over climate change in the past.


Some deep thoughts from Sensenbrenner:
I personally believe that the solar flares are more responsible for climatic cycles than anything that human beings do.

I think that the science is inconclusive on [man-made global warming]


Well, at least Akin isn't on the committee any more.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby jonnygothispen » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:42 am

^ They believe the scientists when they say warming happened many times before, but think the same scientists are nuts when they say it's never happened even remotely as fast, and that it's man-made. No small irony.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:29 am

rabble wrote:We’re on pace for 4°C of global warming. Here’s why that terrifies the World Bank.
The World Bank just commissioned an analysis (pdf) by scientists at the Potsdam Institute looking at the consequences of a 4°C rise in global temperatures above pre-industrial levels by 2100. And the report seems to have unnerved many bank officials. “The latest predictions on climate change should shock us into action,” wrote World Bank President Jim Yong Kim in an op-ed after the report was released Monday.

Climate Scientists Applaud Dire World Bank Report
Climate scientists who have been warning of the dangerous effects of global warming now have the World Bank on their side, after a new report from that organization calling for action to prevent climate catastrophe.

"The World Bank did a great service to society by issuing this report," said Michael Mann, a climate researcher at Pennsylvania State University and the author of "The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars" (Columbia University Press, 2012).

Climate deniers often claim that solutions to global warming are part of a "global socialist agenda," Mann told LiveScience.

"The fact that the World Bank — an entity committed to free market capitalism — has weighed in on the threat of climate change and the urgency of acting to combat it, puts the nail in the coffin of that claim," he said.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:28 pm

ALEC and libertarians are still in denial.

Climate skeptic group works to reverse renewable energy mandates

The Heartland Institute, a libertarian think tank skeptical of climate change science, has joined with the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council to write model legislation aimed at reversing state renewable energy mandates across the country.

...the involvement of the Heartland Institute, which posted a billboard in May comparing those who believe in global warming to domestic terrorist Theodore J. Kaczynski, shows the breadth of conservatives’ efforts to undermine environmental initiatives on the state and federal level. In many cases, the groups involved accept money from oil, gas and coal companies that compete against renewable energy suppliers.

The Heartland Institute received more than $7.3 million from Exxon Mobil between 1998 and 2010, and nearly $14.4 million between 1986 and 2010 from foundations affiliated with Charles G. and David H. Koch, whose firm Koch Industries has substantial oil and energy holdings.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:12 am

Report: Sea levels rising faster than UN panel projections

An area of Arctic sea ice bigger than the United States melted this year, according the U.N. weather agency, which said the dramatic decline illustrates that climate change is happening "before our eyes."

In a report released at U.N. climate talks in the Qatari capital of Doha, the World Meteorological Organization said the Arctic ice melt was one of a myriad of extreme and record-breaking weather events to hit the planet in 2012. Droughts devastated nearly two-thirds of the United States as well western Russia and southern Europe. Floods swamped west Africa and heat waves left much of the Northern Hemisphere sweltering.

But it was the ice melt that seemed to dominate the annual climate report, with the U.N. concluding ice cover had reached "a new record low" in the area around the North Pole and that the loss from March to September was a staggering 11.83 million square kilometers (4.57 million square miles) — an area bigger than the United States.


(Just to piss off doppel, no further comment.)
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby kurt_w » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:29 am



That's about sea ice declining, not sea level rising. Melting sea ice doesn't have (much) direct impact on sea level, because the ice is already floating.

Not saying that sea level isn't rising, but just pointing out that your link is mis-labeled.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:42 am

kurt_w wrote:


That's about sea ice declining, not sea level rising. Melting sea ice doesn't have (much) direct impact on sea level, because the ice is already floating.

Not saying that sea level isn't rising, but just pointing out that your link is mis-labeled.

I'll blame that on yahoo news, as that is how they put it on their main page.
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Re: Klimate Kooks Korrekt

Postby DCB » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:58 am

kurt_w wrote:That's about sea ice declining, not sea level rising. Melting sea ice doesn't have (much) direct impact on sea level, because the ice is already floating.

Not saying that sea level isn't rising, but just pointing out that your link is mis-labeled.

In fact, not just rising, but
Sea level rising faster than UN Projections
Which is obviously not good news for the places trying to recover from Sandy.
"The experts added that the faster sea level rise is unlikely to be caused by a temporary ice discharge from Greenland or Antarctica ice sheets because it correlates very well with the increase in global temperature.


The sea ice declining is also a problem, but for different reasons - positive feedback enhancing global warming.

I'm investing in coffee plantations in Manitoba.
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