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Taxes and fiscal cliff

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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Sandi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:46 am

pjbogart wrote:
Sandi wrote:So tell me if it's "not really a proposal" for Obama to propose unspecified spending cuts starting sometime out in the next 10 to 20 years?


Link please.


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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby wack wack » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:47 am

Sandi wrote:
pjbogart wrote:
Sandi wrote:So tell me if it's "not really a proposal" for Obama to propose unspecified spending cuts starting sometime out in the next 10 to 20 years?


Link please.


Google is your friend.


But apparently not yours.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Sandi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:49 am

What we presently have is a tax hikes now, savings later deal (and later means never).

It would be really great if the republicans thought outside the box and tried to get something of positive value from the deal. But the Democrats have a bias against spending cuts; some sort of aversion to spending cuts of any kind. Any compromise is for the Republicans to give up.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby rabble » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:54 am

And once again, Sandi aptly demonstrates what a silly idea it was for me to think the Republicans would ever consider the notion of "compromise."

Because after all, they've been doing nothing but compromise while Obama has been standing firm on everything, for the last four years. Right?
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby wack wack » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:59 am

rabble wrote:And once again, Sandi aptly demonstrates what a silly idea it was for me to think the Republicans would ever consider the notion of "compromise."

Because after all, they've been doing nothing but compromise while Obama has been standing firm on everything, for the last four years. Right?


The Republicans are resigned to riding rigidity into irrelevance.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Stebben84 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:13 pm

Sandi wrote:Google is your friend.


Hey, you're right. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&scli ... 45&bih=879
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Sandi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:23 pm

Stebben84 wrote:
Sandi wrote:Google is your friend.


Hey, you're right. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&scli ... 45&bih=879


Your very welcome: hope you learn to use it someday.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Sandi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:24 pm

rabble wrote:And once again, Sandi aptly demonstrates what a silly idea it was for me to think the Republicans would ever consider the notion of "compromise."

Because after all, they've been doing nothing but compromise while Obama has been standing firm on everything, for the last four years. Right?


**Pops a beer and listens to the vitriol**
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby rabble » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:35 pm

Sits back and watches Sandi get herself hammered so she can avoid yet another topic she started.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Stebben84 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:45 pm

I'm wondering if she even clicked on my link. Probably not since she's
obviously proved us all wrong.

She doesn't even want to point out the fact that Boehner has proposed a 50% tax increase on anyone making less than $100,000 a year. Now, I don't have a link or anything, just Google it. I'm sure you can find some website somewhere that says I'm right.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Sandi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:51 pm

rabble wrote:Sits back and watches Sandi get herself hammered so she can avoid yet another topic she started.


This topic was started by Huckleby. Of course it is quite probable that you don't know the difference between a topic and a post.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:54 pm

Of course it is quite probable that you don't know the difference between a topic and a post.


**Pops a beer and listens to the vitriol**
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby Stebben84 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:10 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
Of course it is quite probable that you don't know the difference between a topic and a post.


**Pops a beer and listens to the vitriol**


Hey now, Sandi runs many forums and moderates others. I think it's fair we don't question her authority on what a "post" vs. "topic" is. She's the John Henry of forums.

Looks like you might have a third member on one of those Sandi. Congrats.
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby DCB » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:17 pm

rabble wrote:And once again, Sandi aptly demonstrates what a silly idea it was for me to think the Republicans would ever consider the notion of "compromise."

Because after all, they've been doing nothing but compromise while Obama has been standing firm on everything, for the last four years. Right?


White House negotiators have been asking Republicans to detail both the spending cuts they want and the loopholes and deductions they would close to raise revenues while avoiding a hike in tax rates for the rich.

According to the official, Republicans continue to refuse to answer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu ... on-fringe/

Usually in a negotiation, each side asks for they want. Expecting just one side to spell out what they will concede ? Must be new form of Zen negotiation.

I'm guessing that if the Obama did play their silly game, e.g. "OK, tax hikes in exchange for these spending cuts", the Republicans would respond: "Well, we both agree on the spending cuts, so we have a deal!"
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Re: Taxes and fiscal cliff

Postby rabble » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:03 pm

Sandi wrote:
rabble wrote:Sits back and watches Sandi get herself hammered so she can avoid yet another topic she started.


This topic was started by Huckleby. Of course it is quite probable that you don't know the difference between a topic and a post.

Nitpick, nitpick. Anything to avoid arguing the matter at hand.

The Republicans have done nothing but obstruct and stonewall everything with Obama's stamp on it. How many times did they call a vote to repeal Obamacare?

And then of course there's the "filibuster your own bill" tactic. That's productive.

And here's Sandi with "Any compromise is for the Republicans to give up."
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