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Today in voter suppression

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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby rabble » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:14 am

kurt_w wrote:What a pathetic fucking excuse for a party the GOP is.

Now see, this kind of thing is why I think it might take them a while to get back on their feet.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby acereraser » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:54 am

kurt_w wrote: And since lying doesn't always work, they try to rig elections and stop people from voting,
he said with a laugh. This is the knife twist, the blatant disregard for the common desire to do good by your fellow citizens.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby lukpac » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:05 pm

On same-day registration, Walker said a recent Government Accountability Board report that says it would cost the state $5.2 million to end the state's same-day registration law convinced him that he should not sign such a bill.

"There is no way I'm signing a bill that costs that kind of money," Walker told reporters.

Walker said that, in light of the GAB report, he didn't think members of the Legislature would even try to approve a bill to end the same-day registration law.


About those members of the Legislature:

But as Walker began to walk away from pushing for ending same-day registration, Rep. Joel Kleefisch (R-Oconomowoc) and Sen. Alberta Darling (R-River Hills) began circulating a draft bill that would end it. Kleefisch said Wednesday that his staff was "doing research on the components of the same-day registration law."


http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/ ... 82971.html
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby DCB » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:31 pm

lukpac wrote:
"There is no way I'm signing a bill that costs that kind of money," Walker told reporters.

Walker said that, in light of the GAB report, he didn't think members of the Legislature would even try to approve a bill to end the same-day registration law.


When the governor tells you he is definitely not going to something, well, you can take that to the bank. Just ask Gov. Snyder.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby ilikebeans » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:25 pm

The GOP's Electoral College Scheme

Senior Republicans say they will try to leverage their party’s majorities in Democratic-leaning states in an effort to end the winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes. Instead, bills that will be introduced in several Democratic states would award electoral votes on a proportional basis.
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"With the frustration of the current system—and the fact that almost everyone would agree proportional or CD is more representative and maybe more fair than the current winner-take-all—Republicans have a strong, righteous argument," Anuzis said. "However, the motivation would be viewed as being purely political since it hasn’t been done before."

I going to go ahead and assume ALEC is strongly involved in this.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby rabble » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:29 pm

ilikebeans wrote:I going to go ahead and assume ALEC is strongly involved in this.

They'll spend gazillions of dollars pushing it through, get it in place, and then a Democrat will win and they'll start lobbying to change it back. That's some good thinking going on at that there tank.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby Henry Vilas » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:06 pm

Walker open to changing state's Electoral College allocations
Gov. Scott Walker is open to having Wisconsin allocate its Electoral College votes based on results from each congressional district - a move that would offer Republicans a chance to score at least a partial victory in a state that has gone Democratic in the last seven presidential elections.

The idea is being considered in other battleground states that have tipped toward Democrats as Republicans try to develop a national plan to capture the presidency in future years.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby Earthling » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:50 pm

I'll bite....and the problem with this would be? Theoretically any state that wanted to award its electoral votes in this manner could. It would kind of balance the playing field in terms of candidates focussing solely on the "battleground" states wouldn't it?
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby fisticuffs » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:53 pm

It would kind of balance the playing field in terms of candidates focussing solely on the "battleground" states wouldn't it?


Wouldn't it just create "battleground" districts? We already have them actually. Obama was smart enough to identify and campaign in them, Romney was not. Regardless of the system the electoral college leads to focusing only on certain areas. Republicans are just grasping for any way they can stack the deck seeing as how they no longer stand a chance at appealing to a majority of Americans.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby rabble » Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:28 pm

I have no problem with it as long as we get rid of gerrymandering at the same time. Mark off every district as a grid, along street lines, without regard for who lives there and how they might vote.

Do that, and then I'll be fine with allocating electoral college votes by district.

How much chance you give the Republicans of doing that, Earthie?
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby snoqueen » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:54 pm

Good enough idea, but let's follow the boundaries of existing jurisdictions (wards, municipalities, whatever is the right size) to make voting easier.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby Detritus » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:37 pm

Perhaps someone should run the numbers on how third-party candidates might have fared with this scheme. If it in any way endangers the two-party monopoly, then I would guess it's a no go, at least at the national level.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby Stebben84 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:01 pm

It's not taking it far enough. Get rid of the electoral college and then institute instant runoff voting.

OK, that's not gonna happen so we're stuck in a shitty system that can only get worse.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby snoqueen » Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:50 pm

From the article linked:

If the state had such a system this year, Obama would have gotten five votes and his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, would have gotten five. That's because Romney won the majority vote in five congressional districts, while Obama won the majority in three congressional districts and the statewide vote.


Bolded by me.

Funny how they like contorted ideas like splitting the electoral vote, but would never in a million years abolish the electoral college or change how redistricting is done to a more neutral system like Iowa has.
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Re: Today in voter suppression

Postby Human » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:02 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
Wouldn't it just create "battleground" districts?



When the Republicans re-drew the districts last year, they made every Congressional District solidly red or solidly blue. Under the old lines, Duffy and Ryan would have had to fight for their seats, and quite possibly would have lost. But the new districts made every election a foregone conclusion. There are no more "battleground" districts in Wisconsin, at least at the Congressional level.
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