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Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

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Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby Shorty » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:05 pm

Feb 19 is a primary election. The top two candidates for Supreme Court and Madison school board go on to face off April 2. It's unlikely but it would be nice if Republican Raggysack finished third and was eliminated. So vote for Fallone or Megna if you like the 99% and hope for the best. Fallone seems more electable.

http://falloneforjustice.com/

http://vincemegna.com/

This is your sample ballot for the following election:
2/19/2013 - 2013 SPRING PRIMARY

JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT - VOTE FOR ONE
VINCE MEGNA (Non-Partisan)
ED FALLONE (Non-Partisan)
PAT ROGGENSACK (Non-Partisan)

School Board Member Seat 5 Madison Metropolitan - VOTE FOR ONE
TJ MERTZ (Non-Partisan)
ANANDA MIRILLI (Non-Partisan)
SARAH MANSKI (Non-Partisan)
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby doppel » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:33 pm

[u]
Shorty wrote:Feb 19 is a primary election. The top two candidates for Supreme Court and Madison school board go on to face off April 2. It's unlikely but it would be nice if Republican Raggysack finished third and was eliminated.

http://falloneforjustice.com/

http://vincemegna.com/

JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT - VOTE FOR ONE
VINCE MEGNA (Non-Partisan)
ED FALLONE (Non-Partisan)
PAT ROGGENSACK (Non-Partisan)



Just to keep your coverage fair and balanced here is a link to "Republican Raggysack's" campaign site. http://roggensackforjustice.com/
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby pjbogart » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:08 am

doppel wrote:Just to keep your coverage fair and balanced here is a link to "Republican Raggysack's" campaign site. http://roggensackforjustice.com/


Is the moon made of green cheese? In this corner, we have an astronaut who has actually been to the moon, who says that the moon is definitely not made of green cheese. But in the interest of being fair and balanced, we've invited Fred Phelps, a self-proclaimed minister who not only claims that the moon is made of green cheese, but also asserts that anyone who disagrees must be a fag.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby you must be joking » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:36 am

Just had to ask: What experience as a judge would either of the other two candidates for the Surpreme Court seat have that Pat Roggensack doesn't? Does either man have more experience in judging cases at any level? Do we have a clue as to what their judicial temperment will be?

Or are you basing your decision on the fact that Pat Roggensack seems to lean more to the conservative side of things? That she tends to base her decisions on what the clear intent of the legislative branch said, not what she thinks they should have said?

If you really hate a candidate just because they tend to be identified as more conservative then put up a liberal candidate who is a judge. Even if they only have circuit court experience, give us someone, anyone worthy of some consideration by the public. Otherwise, if all your doing is voting for someone who's greatest asset is that they identify with the blue fist crowd, you've really shown how desperate you are.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby doppel » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:11 am

pjbogart wrote:
Is the moon made of green cheese? In this corner, we have an astronaut who has actually been to the moon, who says that the moon is definitely not made of green cheese. But in the interest of being fair and balanced, we've invited Fred Phelps, a self-proclaimed minister who not only claims that the moon is made of green cheese, but also asserts that anyone who disagrees must be a fag.


Saturday night, 11:00 p.m. Wrong thread?
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby Meade » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:23 am

you must be joking wrote:[...]a liberal candidate who is a judge.


Megna, Fallone : Wisc. Dems/Progs :: Harriet Miers : G. W. Bush
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby goldenskyhook » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:00 pm

:roll: You must be joking suggests that Roggensack is under criticism because she "leans conservative." That is total BS. She is under fire because she covered for another judge who was openly abusive to his colleagues, in public AND private. Her economic or political leanings are irrelevant to this unforgivable breach of judicial ethics. She can no longer be trusted to adjudicate the law fairly and honestly. She has given over to cronyism and an utter contempt for anyone who is NOT part of her elite. :!: She should be utterly ashamed of herself. :oops:
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby david cohen » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:41 pm

Not to mention that she is a walking conflict of interest who doesn't understand the meaning of the term "recusal".
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby you must be joking » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:22 pm

goldenskyhook wrote::roll: You must be joking suggests that Roggensack is under criticism because she "leans conservative." That is total BS. She is under fire because she covered for another judge who was openly abusive to his colleagues, in public AND private. Her economic or political leanings are irrelevant to this unforgivable breach of judicial ethics. She can no longer be trusted to adjudicate the law fairly and honestly. She has given over to cronyism and an utter contempt for anyone who is NOT part of her elite. :!: She should be utterly ashamed of herself. :oops:


goldenskyhook,

Unforgivable breach of judicial ethics. Really, what about the other justices on the Wisconsin Supreme Court other than Ableman and Walsh Bradley? Are they quilty of an unforgivable breach of judicial ethics as well? Seems funny to me but in looking back at the aligations leveled against just about everyone else on the court by Abrahmson and Walsh Bradly you come away with the distinct feeling that the two of them don't much care for any of the other justices. Only difference today is they want to make sure Roggensack won't win so they can get another progressive thinker like them on the court.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:44 pm

you must be joking wrote:Unforgivable breach of judicial ethics. Really, what about the other justices on the Wisconsin Supreme Court other than Ableman and Walsh Bradley?

I assume you mean Gableman. And exactly what canons of judicial ethics did Walsh Bradley violate?


You also forgot Annette Ziegler.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby julieinthegarden » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:58 pm

"Unforgivable breach of judicial ethics. Really, what about the other justices on the Wisconsin Supreme Court other than Ableman and Walsh Bradley? Are they quilty [sic] of an unforgivable breach of judicial ethics as well?"

Yes, unforgivable breach of ethics. Don't try to squirm around the accusation by pointing at the other justices, like a small child claiming, "Well, they did it, too!" Roggensack is the one up for re-election and her record shows she has not kept good faith with those she swore to serve. End of story, end of term.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby doppel » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Talk about trying to throw enough mud against the wall and hoping some sticks.

A direct quote from that link:

"An unreliable source indicated that the Supreme Court Justices then threw a celebratory party for Justice Annette Ziegler after awarding the “complimentary reprimand” to her."

Seems like a fair and balanced site to you, right Henry?
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby Henry Vilas » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:26 pm

doppel wrote:Seems like a fair and balanced site to you, right Henry?

Goggle Annette Ziegler judical ethics. Plenty of other sources for her numerous transgressions. Maybe you can write them all off as LSM.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby Shorty » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:56 pm

you must be joking:

"What experience as a judge would either of the other two candidates for the Surpreme Court seat have that Pat Roggensack doesn't? Does either man have more experience in judging cases at any level?"
So experience is all that matters? If that were the case the incumbent would win every election. Ron Johnson and the Republican congress won in 2010 just by pushing an anti-incumbent message. If experience was all that mattered Feingold would have crushed Johnson.

"Or are you basing your decision on the fact that Pat Roggensack seems to lean more to the conservative side of things?"
Understatement. She is a conservative, not bi-partisan or neutral.

"That she tends to base her decisions on what the clear intent of the legislative branch said, not what she thinks they should have said?"
She supports anything the Republican legislation comes up with. Not so much when it was a Dem legislation.

"if all your doing is voting for someone who's greatest asset is that they identify with the blue fist crowd, you've really shown how desperate you are."
It is a partisan race. Raggysack the Repulbican versus Dem challengers.
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Re: Feb 19 primary - vote Roggensack out

Postby doppel » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:04 am

Henry Vilas wrote:
doppel wrote:Seems like a fair and balanced site to you, right Henry?

Goggle Annette Ziegler judical ethics. Plenty of other sources for her numerous transgressions. Maybe you can write them all off as LSM.


Why not just quote a reliable site in the first place? In fact the burden of proof for "her numerous transgressions" remains with you. You could look it up.
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