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More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Stu Levitan » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:34 am

Only Rickert could write a column beginning with an admission of failure: "There’s little point in opining on Ron Johnson from ground zero of Wisconsin’s progressive political establishment." And it doesn't get any better after that.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby bdog » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:17 am

He skewers Johnson and the anti-government types pretty good.

You got a problem with that?
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Stu Levitan » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:05 pm

I guess you have a more generous standard for skewering than I do.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Meade » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:59 pm

Okay, so Senator Johnson voted on the gun contol bill in a way that reflects the views of the majority of Wisconsin voters. Why didn't Democrats simply celebrate the measures that did pass?
It passed overwhelmingly with votes from both parties plus 2 Independents. Celebrate that victory and commit to building on it. Why do Democrats think this shaming approach is a good one? We saw it 2 years ago in the Wisconsin Assembly and we saw it again last week after the Senate votes on gun control. Like Stu attacking Rickert personally rather than debate the merits of what Rickert wrote -- it's childish and ineffectual.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Bland » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:37 pm

Meade wrote:it's childish and ineffectual.
You are without a doubt the least self-aware person I have ever encountered.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Meade » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:55 pm

At least I'm not vapid and bland in my unawareness, I hope.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Detritus » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:15 pm

Meade wrote:Okay, so Senator Johnson voted on the gun contol bill in a way that reflects the views of the majority of Wisconsin voters.

No, he didn't, unless 19% now constitutes a majority. That's just the universal background checks, favored by 89% of the respondents. 63% in the same poll favored banning "military-style assault weapons," which I'm sure you also think a majority of Wisconsinites oppose.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Sandi » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:16 pm

Bland wrote:
Meade wrote:it's childish and ineffectual.
You are without a doubt the least self-aware person I have ever encountered.


Troll alert!
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby snoqueen » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:30 pm

Where did this "shaming" nonsense start? A person would think you were talking to a roomful of third graders, or maybe a convention of psychologists.

This has to be coming from someplace, because it just started appearing and it's not ordinarily part of political terminology. Ronald Reagan never complained about shaming, nor did Lyndon Johnson.
Who can find the earliest blog post that talks about shaming in a political context outside of a grade school election for class president?

You are without a doubt the least self-aware person I have ever encountered.


Well put.

At least I'm not vapid and bland in my unawareness, I hope.


Perhaps you are venal.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby rabble » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:13 pm

Sandi wrote:
Bland wrote:
Meade wrote:it's childish and ineffectual.
You are without a doubt the least self-aware person I have ever encountered.


Troll alert!

Too late. Bland already fed him.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby pjbogart » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:39 pm

Sandi wrote:
Bland wrote:
Meade wrote:it's childish and ineffectual.
You are without a doubt the least self-aware person I have ever encountered.


Troll alert!


You can just post a comment, Sandi. No need for a grandiose entrance.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Bland » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:33 am

Meade wrote:At least I'm not vapid and bland in my unawareness, I hope.


Hope dashed.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby Comrade » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:58 am

How does anyone propose to effectively ban something that already exists by the millions in society? Pass a law, but what good would it do?

You are trying to put the proverbial cork back on the bottle after the Genie has escaped.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby fisticuffs » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:03 am

How does anyone propose to effectively ban something that already exists by the millions in society? Pass a law, but what good would it do?


It would stop the bleeding. Every month these guns are legal hundreds of thousands more of them hit the streets. If we stop the sales now and allow those that already own them to keep them the likely hood they become a commodity and inexpensive and work their way into the hands of criminals decreases. There is no silver bullet to prevent these crimes just like there's no law that can be passed that will eliminate any crime but we certainly can do better than doing nothing.
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Re: More from the vapid Chris Rickert

Postby penquin » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:09 am

Comrade wrote:How does anyone propose to effectively ban something that already exists by the millions in society? Pass a law, but what good would it do?


Exactly. A ban on guns will be just as effective as the ban on cocaine/marijuana has been.

In both cases, there needs to more focus on the people involved and less focus on the objects being used.
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