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The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue May 14, 2013 3:58 pm

The lines are fairly clear cut in the arguments over the Benghazi hearings and the soon to be launched IRS inquiry, but what about the Justice Department's subpoenas over the AP's phone records? Will Congress avoid looking into this matter? It's a somewhat complicated issue, involving freedom of the press verses national security.

I'd like to hear more, including what court issued the subpoenas. Isn't there a semi-secret federal court for this? This issue cuts across party lines, unlike the other two brouhahas.
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby Sandi » Tue May 14, 2013 5:53 pm

Jon Stewart get it. ( near the end of clip ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=8XKBqcIEOXM

Hilarious piece.
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby david cohen » Tue May 14, 2013 7:45 pm

Well the GOP spent much of last year demanding that the Obama administration do something about security leaks...so they did, using the Patriot Act. I still think Russ Feingold was right to vote against it.
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby Sandi » Tue May 14, 2013 7:48 pm

david cohen wrote:Well the GOP spent much of last year demanding that the Obama administration do something about security leaks...so they did, using the Patriot Act. I still think Russ Feingold was right to vote against it.


David, while I agree the patriot act overreaches, what has that got to do with seizing AP phone records?
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby david cohen » Tue May 14, 2013 7:57 pm

It's the Patriot Act which has given the gov't the ability to wiretap etc. with a very low subpoena threshold when it comes to "national security". Citizens, news organizations, makes no difference.
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby Leroy Gates » Tue May 14, 2013 8:53 pm

david cohen wrote:Well the GOP spent much of last year demanding that the Obama administration do something about security leaks...so they did, using the Patriot Act. I still think Russ Feingold was right to vote against it.


AP: The Republicans made me do it.

Benghazi: The Republicans cut the budget

IRS: The Tea Party asked for it

Obamacare: Didn't read the bill

Everything else is the fault of the guy who had the job four and a half years ago.

"“That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists.” — Barack Obama; August 2007

As President, Obama twice signed legislation extending the PATRIOT Act for five years until 2015.
http://davidkretzmann.com/2011/10/the-hypocrisy-of-barack-obama/
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby david cohen » Wed May 15, 2013 7:06 am

They did what you asked and now you are bitching about it. Piss off.
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby Stella_Guru » Wed May 15, 2013 7:12 am

david cohen wrote:Well the GOP spent much of last year demanding that the Obama administration do something about security leaks...


In the past President Obama has loved such "leaks". As the "instant explainers" will say, as long as it glorifys the President....
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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

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Re: The Associated Press, subpoenas and national security

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri May 17, 2013 9:53 am

Darrell Issa voted against the proposed shield law that would have protected journalists from revealing their confidential sources. Now he wants to hold Eric Holder accountable for trying to find out who the sources were.
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