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Re: Benghazi

Postby david cohen » Thu May 16, 2013 10:50 am

The GOP is afraid this whole thing might come back to bite THEM in the ass, to wit:

"In a letter to Rep. Darrell Issa exclusively obtained by CNN, the co-chairmen behind an independent review of September's deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, expressed irritation over the House Oversight Committee chairman's portrayal of their work and requested he call a public hearing at which they can testify.

"The public deserves to hear your questions and our answers," wrote former Ambassador Thomas Pickering and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen, co-chairmen of the Accountability Review Board that was convened to investigate the September 11th attack."

Don't the American people deserve the truth?
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Leroy Gates » Thu May 16, 2013 11:23 pm

"Moreover, while Boxer claims that Republicans “cut” the budget, she is only comparing it to what the Obama administration proposed. The reality is that funding for embassy security has increased significantly in recent years."

"Indeed, it is almost as if Boxer is living in a time warp, repeating talking points from six months ago that barely acknowledge the fact that extensive investigations have found little evidence of her claim that “there was not enough security because the budget was cut.”
State Department officials repeatedly told Congress that a lack of funds was not an issue. Instead, security was hampered because of bureaucratic issues and management failures. In other words, given the internal failures, no amount of money for the State Department likely would have made a difference in this tragedy."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-claim-that-gop-budgets-hampered-benghazi-security/2013/05/15/d1e295cc-bdb0-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_blog.html
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Re: Benghazi

Postby pjbogart » Fri May 17, 2013 12:39 am

Silly Leroy! Trix are for kids! So now you're turning to the "Lame stream media" for your facts? You know that nothing in the Washington Post is true... it's just liberal propaganda! Or do you make exceptions when you happen to agree with it?

So is the Washington Post a reliable source now, Leroy?
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Sandi » Fri May 17, 2013 4:59 am

pjbogart wrote:Silly Leroy! Trix are for kids! So now you're turning to the "Lame stream media" for your facts? You know that nothing in the Washington Post is true... it's just liberal propaganda! Or do you make exceptions when you happen to agree with it?

So is the Washington Post a reliable source now, Leroy?


Why don't you go after the WaPo article content Leroy posted, instead of Leroy?

Oh! You can't? I see... well carry on then.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby wack wack » Fri May 17, 2013 8:08 am

Well, I'll go after the WaPo blog opinion piece: the claims made by the writer against the idea of underfunded security are completely unsupported by links or other evidence, and the few links the writer does provide support the fact that security is indeed underfunded.

Next.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Stebben84 » Fri May 17, 2013 8:36 am

Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims

I'm sure the outrage from the right wing will be displayed here shortly.

If Republicans spent the same amount of time legislating as they do trying to discredit the president, things might actually get accomplished in congress.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby DCB » Fri May 17, 2013 8:45 am

As long as we're quoting from the august and revered Washington Post:
It follows that Ms. Rice did not willfully mislead anyone, and that the 97 House Republicans who signed a letter charging that she did owe the ambassador an apology.

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By focusing on the phony issue of the talking points, Republicans are missing the opportunity to press for needed reforms at State and a more active U.S. policy in the Middle East. They should also be spurring a sluggish FBI investigation to determine who really organized and led the attacks in Benghazi; it has yet to be established whether they were ordered by local jihadists, terrorists linked to al-Qaeda or someone else, and whether they were planned because of the Sept. 11 anniversary or inspired by the events in Cairo.

Instead, with their bigger-than-Watergate rhetoric, the GOP’s scandal-pushers are making themselves look small-minded, hyperpartisan and foolish.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby fisticuffs » Fri May 17, 2013 8:50 am

Instead, with their bigger-than-Watergate rhetoric, the GOP’s scandal-pushers are making themselves look small-minded, hyperpartisan and foolish.


They don't just look that way. They ARE that way. 4 and a half years of it to be exact. The deficit is shrinking, housing is back, unemployment is down and they had nothing to do with cleaning up any of the mess they created. It's probably best that they don't govern come to think of it.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby snoqueen » Fri May 17, 2013 2:56 pm

Would be fun to find out exactly who altered the email texts, and it shouldn't be impossible to find out.

If this is Watergate, it's the low-rent version.

Quick! Back to howling about the IRS thing!
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Donald » Fri May 17, 2013 3:20 pm

Exactly, Sno. What needs to happen is to have an in-depth investigation of the Republican operation that was responsible for putting out fraudulent information that cost taxpayers money to investigate. Why aren't the people who put out this information required to testify under oath about their fraudulent activities? Let them take the 5th if they believe their lies about the emails could result in criminal penalties.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Ned Flanders » Fri May 17, 2013 3:35 pm

snoqueen wrote:If this is Watergate, it's the low-rent version.

Nobody died due to the Watergate break in darling. Of course, leftists don't care about a few broken eggs, right?
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Stebben84 » Fri May 17, 2013 3:40 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:
snoqueen wrote:If this is Watergate, it's the low-rent version.

Nobody died due to the Watergate break in darling. Of course, leftists don't care about a few broken eggs, right?


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Re: Benghazi

Postby DCB » Fri May 17, 2013 4:59 pm

Ned Flanders wrote:
snoqueen wrote:If this is Watergate, it's the low-rent version.

Nobody died due to the Watergate break in darling. Of course, leftists don't care about a few broken eggs, right?

I thought all you wingnuts cared about were the 'talking points'. And the elections. Now you're concerned about the murders?

Have Issa and his cabal asked any questions relevant to embassy security yet?
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Huckleby » Fri May 17, 2013 5:34 pm

Ned Flanders wrote: Nobody died due to the Watergate break in darling. Of course, leftists don't care about a few broken eggs, right?


The Republicans really aren't addressing WHY people died. Well, other than really ridiculous conspiracy theories.

People died because a diplomatic outpost was established at a time and place where it was impossible to secure it.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby snoqueen » Fri May 17, 2013 6:13 pm

Donald makes a good point. If the Republicans altered the emails, and the Republicans are spending a bushel of money on an investigation that depends in significant part on what the emails (supposedly) said, something is very, very wrong here. Not just stupid partisan mischief wrong, but criminally wrong as in malfeasance in the use of public money.

If the Democrats altered some Republican emails and then showboated a big congressional investigation of the matters to which the altered emails pertained (one that depended heavily on the altered versions, no less) can you imagine the hollering?
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